Saturday, January 27, 2024

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Interim Court Decision

Thanks for this beautiful yeats poem!!!!
Magical.
K

Kenneth Harrow
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Emeritus Professor of English, Michigan State University
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Interim Court Decision
 

Chidi,


Yeats here: Aedh Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven


"Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,

Enwrought with golden and silver light,

The blue and the dim and the dark cloths

Of night and light and the half light,

I would spread the cloths under your feet:

But I, being poor, have only my dreams;

I have spread my dreams under your feet;

Tread softly because you tread on my dreams"


Since they are conscious that they are setting a precedent, if only the ICJ had not been guilty of soft pedalling, some will say, pussyfooting in this their tentative judgement, or is it a final judgement based on the collective evidence, to date? I was expecting that since they have the power to do so, in the true spirit of pikuach nefesh, they would have issued a straightforward declaration that read, 


" Israel, as your GOD and the whole world and you yourselves know, all the indices point to the incontrovertible fact that you are as guilty as hell of committing a systematic, ongoing genocide of the hapless people of Gaza. You must stop this immediately - or else - God's holy wrath! Remember the last time He sent Nebuchadnezzar and it was through dear Ezra that the nation was restored to a semblance of sanity.  Fast forward: after many other trials and tribulations there was  Hitler followed by the Nuremberg Trials, cries of  " Never again!", and today, the 27th of January is Holocaust Remembrance Day, even as you continue your Sabbath-bombing of Gaza. Remember: God is not mocked! The lesson that Hillel taught in ON ONE FOOT - is, "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah, all the rest is commentary"


Chidi, check this out: Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel – OCHA Flash Update #52


Israel's Most Genocidal Potential Weapon Exposed


You know how seriously I take you. I take you seriously because, unlike that big grammar buffoon anc clown, when you are not playing devil's advocate or poetically pouting with tongue in cheek you are only being ironic, sarcastic, and otherwise, like ice, like fire, completely sincere - a possible answer to Joni's prayer in Same Situation:  


"Still I sent up my prayer

Wondering where it had to go

With heaven full of astronauts

And the Lord on death row

While the millions of his lost and lonely ones

Call out and clamour to be found

Caught in their struggle for higher positions

And their search for love that sticks around


Still I sent up my prayer

Wondering who was there to hear

I said Send me somebody

Who's strong and somewhat sincere

With the millions of the lost and lonely ones

I called out to be released

Caught in my struggle for higher achievements

And my search for love

That don't seem to cease"


I'm not a military man or an expert on criminal or international law; my background, none of it formal studies, is limited to Sun Tzu's The Art of War, some war poetry - starting with Wilfred Owen and most of all the rest before and after him, enough to sensitise even the most hardened soul, the most hardened war criminals and the most hardhearted rabbis, hearts made of rocks and solid stone, completely lacking in the quality known as chesed, admittedly, too much of which was a weakness in Saul, the first king of Israel. I hope that I'm not sounding like the New Testament calumny of the holier-than-thou Pharisee in contrast with the tax collector since I'm neither nor of the either-or - and if you check out R. Travers Herford's The Pharisees, you get a completely different picture of those second temple period ancestors of today's ultra-orthodox rabbis some of whom are for, whilst others are against the ongoing carnage in Gaza 


I should add that as an avid student of the history of the Second World War with more than just a modest acquaintance with the literature including witness testimonies dealing with the Holocaust - here's a short guide: The Holocaust  - A Reader - Edited by Simone Gigliotti and Berel Lang and that that is the background to my concern about the ongoing carnage in Gaza. 


True: Great minds think alike and that's why you believe that lurking in the background hiding behind your question ( " When will Putin be arrested on basis of the subsisting arrest warrant issued by the ICC?") is Professor Harrow's well-known anti-Russian Perspective, giving you the backup and the succour that both of your purified hearts desire.


This does not mean to subvert the true purpose of justice or to undermine the question of why  - once the international warrant for the arrest and extradition of Benjamin Netanyahu and his accomplices to face the music at the ICC, the war criminals cannot be arrested in Israel as a logical consequence of their crimes.


In your opinion, which of these crimes is more serious: the corruption charges against Netanyahu or the execution of his genocidal intentions which have so far resulted in the death toll in Gaza of at least 26,083 Palestinians killed and 64,487 wounded by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip since the start of the war which translates into  - according to the United Nations report from seven days ago, more than 16, 000 women and children killed since start of the war in Gaza


Since the 23rd of November 2023, 2 Million People Displaced in Gaza






On Saturday 27 January 2024 at 11:28:54 UTC+1 Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM, CDOA wrote:
Mazi Cornelius,

Why can't Putin be arrested inside Russia? Is Russia not part of the world (jurisdiction of the World Court)?

Lurking in the background, hiding behind my question is rather the perspective Ken provided here.

Thanks.

-CAO.

On Saturday 27 January 2024, cornelius...@gmail.com <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chidi,


It would seem that Putin is wary about travelling to some places abroad, for fear of being arrested. Lurking in the background, hiding behind your question Lurking in the background, hiding behind your question about Vladimir Putin, is the real question that you want to ask, and the question is, When will the ICC issue an international arrest warrant for Netanayahu ?


After such an arrest warrant is issued, despite all his big talk and bravado, and being best buddies with Biden, he will never travel to e.g. Sudan, or Iran, where they would take him hostage on arrival at the Imam Khomeini International Airport in accordance with the Islamic Principle, IF SHIT HAPPENS; TAKE A HOSTAGE !


 In Netanyahu's case, the Mullahs would rejoice, Allah has delivered the little Satan into our hands and tell Joe Biden that his friend will only regain some freedom in exchange for all the Palestinians being illegally detained in the West Bank, 1967 borders, compensations for the Palestinian victims of the Holocaust and the destruction and looting of their properties etc, etc etc etc, you know the other demands that would be made.


The only sad thing for Netanyahu in such a scenario is that there are some of his own chosen people in Israel and the Diaspora who might implore the Mullahs in Iran, "please keep him, we don't want him" 


Everyone prefers Devarim / Deuteronomy 28: 1 - 14


Devarim/ Deuteronomy 28:15 - 68 is no joking matter 




On Friday 26 January 2024 at 21:41:05 UTC+1 Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM, CDOA wrote:
When will Putin be arrested on basis of the subsisting arrest warrant issued by the ICC?

-Chidi Anthony Opara (CAO)

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, 9:24 PM 'Victor Okafor' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
It's a step forward that's better than anything that has yet emanated from a world body. It is a court order from the world's only World Court. Let's watch and see what follows.

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 12:25 PM Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com> wrote:
Has the court really done anything decisive?

toyin

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 17:45, 'Victor Okafor' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Common sense prevailed!

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 8:54 AM Toyin Falola <toyin...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

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