Tuesday, January 9, 2024

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Report: TB Joshua: Megachurch Leader Raped And Tortured Worshippers

With all due respect, i disagree with victor's claim that the bbc is an imperial, neocolonial mouthpiece. To the contrary, i find it is particularly critical of the u.k. Govt, it is a true watchdog. As for the former colonies, they are largely ignored, as is most of africa, in their reportage, and when they report i see nothing to indicate any "imperial" bias. Not to say they are not biased: their bias is essentially center-left on almost everything they report.
If i were to criticize the bbc's webpage, it is that it is filled with scandalmongering. 
Ken

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Thanks for the clarification.

If your my initial interventions, I said there are other issues more grave that the sexual allegations: collecting money from people who can barely survive; and fake miracles.

 

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Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:33 AM
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Like all phenomena in the human experience, there are instances of fake miracles, and there are probably more fake ones than real ones as the church is not immune to sin. All human beings and all human entities are sinful. On the other hand, genuine miracles are provable through medical exams and reports, and tend to be attested to, on site, by the recipients in broad daylight. Often, all parties in attendance would see evidence of the pre-miracle situation and evidence of the post-miracle situation of the recipient. 

 

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:11 AM Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

You are referring to miracles you can proof. Am I correct?

Suppose they are made up, as in many cases, is this not evil? A deliberate manufacture of the scripture to commit crime.

When next you see a blind person whose vision has been restored, let us all parade him as evidence, but what we know thus far is "I was told," "I heard."

Are there miracles? Yes, as science itself has confirmed, although they don't use the word miracle.

 

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Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 7:11 AM
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Dear Toyin:

With all due respect, you are an esteemed scholar of African History, but I'm not aware that your formal learning embraces the realm of religious miracles. So, by what authority did you feel qualified to pronounce practical Christianity's manifestation of miracles in the current era as "evil?" I suggest that you visit SCOAN and/or any such genuine entity and see for yourself and with your own naked eyes what goes on there in the realm of miracles. Please, go and see for yourself. 

 

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 6:27 AM Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

Dear Ma:

The definition of "evil" as uniquely sexual deserves a query. Is collecting money from poor people not even far worse than sexual abuse?

Apologies to all the feminists for my crude comparison.

Is Christianity a miracle-bound religion? The promise of miracles they all do—in various styles and mean—are evil, far worse than hedonism.

Apologies to hedonists!

TF

 

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He was not the only one; unfortunately, this is the beginning of unprecedented revelations for many.

 

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Victor O. Okafor, Ph.D.

Professor and Head

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Eastern Michigan University

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Food for Thought

"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." -- Frederick Douglass

 

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