Sunday, January 28, 2024

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - South Africa Hails 'Decisive Victory' For International Law At UN Court

Dear Oluwatoyin,


Let's start with the little bit of racism/ tribalism in your first sentence: " The ICJ is a Western created institution, on Western land."


Could you say ditto about the not-so-united United Nations ( and many of its agencies, the usual hullabaloo about funding - Uncle Sam the Mr Money Bags, main financier who wants to be therefore calling the shots, bullying everybody he can, threatening to leave etc) that "The United Nations  is a Western created institution, on Western land."?


I was thinking about this the other day when Professor Harrow wrote, " we need a new edward said here, one who demands respect and even honor—recognition of the value and humanity of the other."


Indeed,we need a new Edward Said here. 


Do you remember the pandemonium that erupted when Palestine was given observer status and even admitted to membership of UNESCO, that the US stopped Unesco funding after Palestine was granted membership ? Is it any wonder that the US-backed Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Universities and other institutions of higher learning, to date / since the 7th of October) up to 280 government schools and 65 UNRWA-run schools have been destroyed or damaged


Kudos: Clare Daly 


Even some savvy Israeli military man says this is what's most urgently needed: Ceasefire!



On Sunday 28 January 2024 at 22:52:41 UTC+1 Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
The ICJ is a Western created institution, on Western land. 

The whole universe knows that Israel's claim to self defense is a most expansive one covering the decimation of Palestinian society as a perpetual deterrent.

The idea of a peace of equals between Israel and the Palestinians not on the table for Israel and her allies, specifically the US, UK and Germany


The UN has done its best but been hobbled by the US, the most powerful Western nation.

Did you expect the ICJ to do the reasonable thing to stop the ongoing slaughter?

Why would they?

We need a restructuring of these international institutions.

What has been achieved by SA is a symbolic victory, bringing to the open what has long been the case. 

That Israel is a largely sick country, suffering from  Holocaust Induced Trauma, HIT, in which descendants of the dehumanized become dehumanizers.

Thanks

Toyin








On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 9:53 PM cornelius...@gmail.com <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Oluwatoyin,


Given that the ICJ is a competent international body with competent judges in whom we are supposed to repose some trust that they are more than capable of fulfilling their mission which is to dispense justice, could you please tell us why you "did not expect much from the ICJ"?


Here is Jeffrey Sachs' reaction to the ICJ judgement 


Ray McGovern & Larry C. Johnson Interview: ICJ Ruling And Israel's LAST GASP


George Galloway 


Other reactions to the ICJ ruling on genocide in Gaza


The whole world waited with various degrees of anxiety, in some spheres, perhaps, an increase in the blood pressure among some members of the war cabinet due to some doubts and some fears, both positive and negative, since some of those who wash their hands in the morning to dedicate all their works to Hashem, begin the day with the prayer Rayshis chochma yir-as Adonai ((The beginning of wisdom is the fear of Hashem ) - at least they're supposed to know that, whilst others waited for the ICJ judgement with other kinds of expectations, with hope, even confidence that the ICJ would decree an international warrant for the arrest of Netanyahu and declare a ceasefire that would be legally binding, with immediate effect.


 I think that the Mullahs in Iran are the most realistic; they know that even if Mister Netanyahu believes that he is democratically elected and blessed with divine protection, UncleJoe's iron dome etc, he would never set foot in any territory that belongs to the Islamic Republic, speak less of him intending make a state visit and get some red carpet treatment when he knows full well that on his arrival at the Imam Khomeini International Airport, he would be taken into custody directly - as a hostage - and we will all be reading about the international crisis that he would have thereby created, in Tehran Times

 

So far it looks like Hezbollah have been biding their time and the war is all set to expand along the axis of the Israel-Lebanon border. A good rule of thumb: Trust in the Lord but don't misunderestimate Mister Hitler…


https://www.memri.org/






On Sunday 28 January 2024 at 16:48:22 UTC+1 Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
I did not expect much from the ICJ

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 12:11 PM cornelius...@gmail.com <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:
Makes for depressing reading : Chris Hedges: It May be Genocide, But it Won't Be Stopped



On Friday 26 January 2024 at 23:31:39 UTC+1 Harrow, Kenneth wrote:
Victor is right about this need for justice, and african states to stand up. But again, blinker just returning from angola where a major american deal is concluded…. The money runs the show there. Where does it now? Palestine, where it is blood.
Ken

Kenneth Harrow
Emeritus Professor of English, Michigan State University
Harrow@msu/edu


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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - South Africa Hails 'Decisive Victory' For International Law At UN Court
 
Mighty congratulations to South Africa and its political class, which demonstrably, have not forgotten their history of a prolonged struggle against institutionalized racism that was based on the doctrine of White Supremacy, which in its case was known as Apartheid. Here in the USA, a similar social system of institutionalized racism was known as Jim Crow. South Africa's direct, non-violent action of taking Israel to the World Court over the Palestinian tragedy demonstrates what a people, who are conscious of their history, can do to help others similarly in need. This is a case study of applied history. As the Great Dr. Martin Luther King, jr, put it, "Injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice everywhere." That history apparently gave the South African political elite an acute sensitivity to racial injustice, racial apartheid.

If I may add, there used to be a time when South Africa's northern big brother, Nigeria, also used to stand tall in the international arena, particularly during the heyday of the liberation struggles in Southern Africa, including its epicenters of then apartheid South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namidia, Angola, and Mozambique. As part of a compulsory exposure to a two-sequence course on decolonized African history, our university kids--across the board--should be made aware of that history of a time period in Nigeria's political evolution when it was a pride to be called a Nigerian on the international stage.

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