Peace, yes. At least we also have this in common : I'm looking forward to what Kamala Harris will be saying this evening. Since you say that " What is unequivocal is that Trump only stands for Trump.", maybe he has this song in mind, about her, and , maybe, such is Kamala's charm and her hidden powers of persuasion that she will convince Trump himself to vote for her.
You know how it is, some politicians are like chameleons. I don't suppose that when she visits her ancestral village ,she tells the folks over there that she's an "African" or "Black", or a "Black Woman"
And I pray that Trump doesn't ever lose control -and - violence in thought, word or deed, at the next debate, threaten or talk about wanting to grab her by the anywhere - because then the dream of making America great again would definitely be all over
You remember that sometime ago your former president once referred to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas" ?
BTW, hopefully, someday a Native American will be President of the United States.
Americans (USA) are usually proud of their presidents and especially during the ideological cold war would have liked the rest of the world to toe the line and emulate American freedom & democracy, yet surprisingly, today, with China and Russia's fait accompli of taking over Africa, the Caribbean, South America without even firing a shot you don't have anything good to say about Donald Trump who was democratically elected and served as the 45th President of the United States.
Apart from trying to entice me to "buy" "Trump's Bible" , you seem to be unwilling to mention Trump's many other achievements and accomplishments during his tenure as president - such as the economy for example, and nota bene : He didn't start any wars; on the contrary , he says that if he had been president ( instead of Biden) it would not have been necessary for Russia to embark on their military operation in Ukraine, and of course, that Hamas would have thought twice and not have done October 7th ( the equivalent of al-Qaeda's 9-11)
Even as the prospect of the outbreak of the third world war looms over Europe, here's one of the latest repercussions : Mali Orders Swedish Envoy to Leave Amid Russia-Ukraine Conflict - much more could be said about this….
Mingus : The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
To compare him to any of the people you just mentioned is an insult to their lives of struggle for the people.
What is unequivocal is that Trump only stands for Trump.
I have done my homework, and this has nothing to do with who Kamala Harris is or will be.
I am as left leaning as they come, and he is not right or left. As Gloria stated he is a narcissist. One who is willing to divide, conquer, and destroy for personal gain. He would claim to be the second coming or even the Buddha, if he thought it would line his pockets and prop up his throne. You can buy his bible if you want.
I'm not falling for it and nor should the world.
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"I cannot quite figure out how we have laws that ban felons from voting, but we don't have one to ban them from becoming President."
This is the kind of rhetorical one-liner that we should expect issuing from Lady Camela who has an unenviable record as a former state prosecutor, unenviable to the extent that some of the people who are displeased with her must be exaggerating when they say that once upon a time she went the extra mile to try to send as many black folks as possible to the penitentiary or the gallows, and now she wants all the Black folks to vote for her & Walz
"But he is already convicted - 34 times to be exact. I cannot quite figure out how we have laws that ban felons from voting, but we don't have one to ban them from becoming President."
These are the kinds of lines ( I almost wrote" lies") that we are to expect will be issuing from her lips when she accepts her party's coronation later, tonight, as if she doesn't know that the one who she claims as her Lord and Saviour died a criminal's death
" I'll never forget, no way
They crucified Jesus Christ
I'll never forget, no way
They sold Marcus Garvey for rice,
I'll never forget, no way
They turned their backs on Paul Bogle,
So don't you forget, know you
Who you are and where you stand in the struggle"
(Bob Marley : So Much Things To Say)
I just listened to this review (Christian) of "Jesus in the Talmud" by Peter Schäfer
It's a general topic : Jesus in the Talmud
It's also a general understanding that " No one is above the law" just as it's a general understanding that there's no smoke without fire, and that Trump's sudden plethora of court cases have been politically motivated ( witch hunt) as is claimed was the case with Jesus, and Nelson Mandela too ( Robben Island)
That a convicted person can still be eligible to be elected " leader of the free world" suggests to me that theologically speaking, these days, the US being mainly Christian territory , the US President probably enjoys a semi-transcendental status which does not mean that he is semi-divine - since according to Paul - all - Joe Biden , Kamala Harris, Tim Walz , Bill Clinton included, are sinners, according to Paul's one liner that " All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". Assuming that that could be possibly true, then in reality, what's the basis of this New Testament holier-than thou Pharisaic attitude of Luke 18:9-14 ?
What about Biden, the sitting President in the US or the Prime Minister for example in Israel, do they enjoy immunity from prosecution - and if ever found guilty of any kind of criminal transgression / corruption / war crime/ crimes against humanity, what happens then?
I suspect that the losers would like to see a new law come into force retroactively in the US, some kind of Article 419 stating unequivocally in black and white that "Anyone who has been convicted of a felony shall not be eligible to contest a Presidential Election in the United States of America."
One of Baba's favourites : Hari Om Sharan
--On Thursday 22 August 2024 at 09:07:14 UTC+2 Abidogun, Jamaine M wrote:
But he is already convicted - 34 times to be exact. I cannot quite figure out how we have laws that ban felons from voting, but we don't have one to ban them from becoming President.
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Unfortunately, since I have no dog in the fight, I'm following a principle of Justice by suspending all judgement till I've heard from the accused, Trump himself .
Donald J.Trump@realDonaldTrump
--On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 17:17:57 UTC+2 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
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Gloria In Excelsis Emeagwali,
Whilst crediting you with mostly being just and fair when arguing your case (although you sometimes went overboard in your altercations with dear Professor Kenneth Harrow) and whilst admiring your consistency and your - for me - impeccable Afrocentric credentials ( I suppose that it comes with the territory you research and teach) you must admit that it's not easy to underestimate / "misunderestimate" anyone's intelligence or capacity for duplicity, malevolence and hypocrisy. Quite accidentally, yesterday, this item popped up on Dr Google:
us presidents and vice presidents intelligence ratings
If you want to be more specific :
Donald Trump IQ ( 150)
Kamala Harris IQ (110)
As Fela put it in Lady ( Lady - lyrics)
"If you call am "woman"
African woman no go 'gree
She go say, she go say, "I be lady, oh"
"She go want take cigar before anybody"
" She want sit down For table before anybody" etc etc etc
On the other hand , Kamala is not an African Woman - not exactly, nor has she ever said that she is or was. Just ask her the question, " Are you an African woman ?" and let's see if she won't start telling you all about her ancestral village in India.
Last night , whilst waiting for the Convention to begin ( 6 hrs time difference between Stockholm and Chicago) ) I listened to this : The system has been designed to W0RK against Black Americans which raises sub-questions about the Blackness and the Black Americanness of e.g. Barack Obama "We Were Eight Years in Power" and you looking forward to four to eight years of Kamala who can't stop smiling from ear to ear, and laughing , as it were, surprised by herself being looked upon as Africa-America's latest & wannabe greatest Messiah, the Great Black Hope…Has she said anything yet about Reparations?
BTW, I'm not impressed by anyone with such a low IQ, by hook and by crook, hellbent on being elected / appointed /anointed commander-in-chief, but it suggests that in this case, she could be more easily controlled by her handlers - and I'm sure that she has plenty of them to be subservient to - husband, vice-president, senior senators, congressmen, old man Biden, etc, maybe some former boyfriend, in the way that Paul recommended.
You know the song, " I felt so good, I told the leader how to follow"
Anyway, USA is not supposed to be a Geniocracy - in which case no Old Genocide Joe would ever be president. The USA was designed as a government by ballot and not by e.g. the bullet by which they wanted to eliminate Trump.
I don't believe that that youth man was the one that pulled the trigger either.
Re - all the hullabaloo about Project 2025.
It's like Trump's court cases. Suddenly, just in time to try to thwart his 2nd term ambitions, a flurry of court cases , Stormy Daniels flaunting her rump all over the place in the courtroom, the storming of the capitol on the 6th of January and and, of course, the last minute attempted assassination of Trump on July 14, 2024 at 12:11 AM GMT…
July 14, Bastille Day, the birthday of Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria, also my birthday. Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth is good at working out those kinds of synchronicities, but even if you're not superstitious, these days and dates are significant , take for instance Rishi Sunak ( infinitely more personable, intelligent, polished and accomplished than e.g Kamala Harris) setting the 4th of July as the UK's election day - the day that USA celebrated their Independence from the UK
Suddenly, like some dubious Apocrypha, "Project 25" has been lifted out of nowhere and is being splashed on the anti-Trump websites as some kind of centrepiece of Trump's altar
First of all, project 25 is not an official policy paper. The ideas contained there do not appear to be part of today's Republican Party manifesto. Most importantly, what does Trump himself say about all that - very different from asking what Jesus says about the New Testament, because Jesus is not here to deny or confirm his divinity, since he is supposedly yet to return from Heaven….
I have checked you reference to Judge Upholds Arizona Law Banning Ethnic Studies and, think that it's outrageous, If true - or partly true in its intentions, I understand it as the White Man getting jittery and almost overwhelmed by paranoia, the white man's demographic nightmare that he is about to lose his ethnic majority status - about which this election is going to be a litmus test in polarised USA , getting more polarised by the hour through the counterproductive, incessant racist, anti-racist, hate- filled gobbledegook being spewed by among others, Defiant Lawyers - and orchestrated by the wild left to undermine and sabotage America. It's something like " the enemy within" . Experience should teach unity. The best of intentions to make America Great Again must establish the foundations on which to build the dream and Abraham Lincoln the Republican's realisation that "A house divided against itself cannot stand"
I also have certain reservations with regard to the teaching of some kinds of Ethnic Studies. You must admit that some of the revolutionary and militant teaching could be regarded as subversive when it aims at the overthrow - by violent or illegal/ unlawful, means that may still be subsumed under the general category of " by any means necessary"
You say that I "saw the blood dripping down Trump's face but you did not see his Nazi sign!"
How do you account for Trump's popularity ? That his supporters are " Nazi"?
You say that Trump " actually started the process of arming Ukraine" -I thought that it was Biden that had some murky family business dealings over there and that Trump has said that Russia's military operation and Hamas' terror attack of October 7 would not have happened if it was he Trump and not old man Biden that was in the saddle….
Jamaican Patois (NOT English!)
--On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 05:47:47 UTC+2 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
"I don't believe a word of it . It couldn't possiblybe true because there's no way that anyone wouldget away with it , since to begin with, any suchlegislation would be unlawful and criminal too. So there. "Cornelius
You are either underestimating our intelligence,or overvaluing the integrity of MAGA, Trump,and his cultist followers.
What attracts you to this guy? For 29 pieces ofsilver he can be bought. He actually started theprocess of arming Ukraine, and has vowed tofinish the job (of genocide) in Gaza. Even Russiadoes not trust him. If you see him as a peacemaker, think again. It's all smoke and mirrors .
Meanwhile you can do a search for USbanned books and bans on diversity programs.
Here is one:
arizona-law-banning-ethnic-studies
I believe TF posted one about Texas banssome time ago.
You saw the blood dripping down Trump's facebut you did not see his Nazi sign!
Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
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One thing that we have in common is that we're both looking forward to the opening night of the Coronation Convention in Chicago.
( I dream that since Netanyahu doesn't want his nightmare to come true, his nightmare of having to engage Hezbollah & Iran in a war that could unexpectedly escalate into an unanticipated and unprecedented holocaust for which he will only have himself to blame - in the coming days, he will therefore succumb to whatever ceasefire overtures and thereby blow a new gust of wind in Kamala Harris' sails - giving both Joe Biden and her and their messenger Anthony Blinken the credit.
Whether or not Netanyahu prefers her to his other pro-Israel friend, Donald J Trump, there is no getting away from the fact that Israel would not emerge unscathed after a full scale war with her powerful adversaries in that neighbourhood this time around and that's why in the name of pikuach nefesh it is imperative to seek peace and pursue it, now, when we're still alive.)
Just like a woman, in your case an American woman, you find it "more than offensive" that I think that it would be proper, wise, and just to check out Kamala's legs before casting or wasting a ballot on her. Where is your sense of humour? So you think that I was being serious? Me innerested in Kamala's legs? My Better Half would definitely poison my coffee. I joked with my Better Half about having never seen Kamala's legs and thank God that she didn't think that it was a mortal sin; after all the US Presidential Election is not the same as a beauty contest or a beauty vs the beast contest, in which case the sayings are two : 1. "age before beauty" and 2. "all's fair in love and war ". I understand that for some Americans this presidential election is more or less a war between Democrats and Republicans, and that's why somebody almost assassinated Trump the other day and he emerged triumphantly out of the attempted assassination with a clenched fist, blood running down his cheek…
Now if Kamala was a Muslim and was wearing a hijab to cover her hair, she would probably win the sympathy of some of the Muslim sisters. She does seem to be aware of her physicality - of her body : just the other day ( healthy curiosity ) I asked Pa Google - no offence meant, I could have also asked Ma Google the question, How tall is Kamala Harris ? -and found in passing, that her mother was even shorter ( 1.52 m)
In the name of decency let's hope that something similar doesn't happen with Kamala…and - God forbid - that no one tries to eliminate her….
I see that you and Gloria have your knives out for Trump. Why are you so aggressive?
I also understand that to avert being labelled a male chauvinist pig I had better sign up for some of your courses…
Re - " to stop the teaching of black history in public schools (govt K through 12 grades) and critical race theory in colleges and universities."
I don't believe a word of it . It couldn't possibly be true because there's no way that anyone would get away with it , since to begin with, any such legislation would be unlawful and criminal too. So there.
Kamala on the other hand can promise all the rose gardens and perfumes in heaven, promise to build three million houses and give free lunches to newly arrived immigrants during her first year and maybe fund the whole enterprise by executive decree…
A favourite poster : Sojourner Truth : Ain't I A Woman?
Cheers!
--On Monday 19 August 2024 at 21:21:27 UTC+2 Abidogun, Jamaine M wrote:
I do live in the US, am an American citizen, and have voted in US elections for 40 years. I have taught American Government in secondary schools, and US history in Secondary and University courses.
As a woman, your issue about seeingThe Vice President's legs is more than offensive. It has no place in a political discussion or any professional discussion.
Trump is a misogynist and is very comfortable with attacking women on a personal level instead of seeing them as his peers and professional equals. But that is not part of the video that I shared, so I will leave that point.
The video is about Project 2025 that is reported to be Trump's administrative and policy plan if he were to be reelected. More than 2 dozen of his former staff members and his current VP choice are connected to the "think tank" the Heritage Foundation that produced this policy plan. The most chilling aspect is the later part of the video where they describe in very formal terms how they campaigned and distributed proposal materials and utilized state level politicians to stop the teaching of black history in public schools (govt K through 12 grades) and critical race theory in colleges and universities. The video goes on to describe their political efforts to dismantle diversity equity & inclusion offices and programs. These efforts have torn out much of Black Studies and protections on school and universities campuses in the past few years at an alarming rate. Even at the University of Texas at Austin, where our esteemed founder of this listserv teaches.
Trump has a long history of racist and misogynist behaviors. You can google him on newscasts spouting all types of derogatory and slanderous things. Just google him. Not certain how you can think he is under attack or misunderstood or misrepresented.
Maybe you are being ironic or sarcastic and I just missed the humor in it. For many Americans, including myself, this election really is a fight to save some version of democracy from his efforts to create an autocratic post for himself.
Sincerely,Jamaine Abidogun
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Just listen – It is chilling!
Project 2025 co-author recorded assuring Trump's support of his work in new video (msnbc.com)
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