Friday, December 27, 2024

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Life ! Life’s foibles, mistakes, mis-taken, misshapen Identities

Cornelius, the more I read you, the more I realize how far our interests coincide and intersect (at least in the literary field). 

I went to "orthodox" elementary and secondary Catholic schools, where my literary and dramatic interests developed (though I was NEVER interested in professional acting). Asian Indian and Naija festivals (especially Edo and Yoruba ones) never bored me. I was active for about a year in the amateur Mbari Olokun Club; we toured Naija (from the South to the North). But only philosophy and math captured my professional love. My interest in math then was ONLY or primarily in geometry; I never cared for arithmetic or algebra. My philosophical curiosity from pre-school to now has remained constant. Strangely, my interest in trig finally triggered my interest in LOGIC, Roman/Greek/Asian Indian/Arabic/ and Jewish philosophies. 

Thank you again for feeding me the "Edo" hen of Idehen …. and the other dishes from other cultures.

Oohay





On Friday, December 27, 2024, 12:48 AM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:

Googled : the pretentious chimp

On Thursday, 26 December 2024 at 15:45:59 UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:

Good Morning Doc !


And cheers to all you just said about Shakespeare !


Cheers - even if according to the fettered, the unlettered, the unlearned, the unmind-full, the unread and underfed, suffering from intellectual malnutrition and illusions of grandeur, it's "subjective" as are indeed those referred to as the silver poets, the various golden ages and categories of poets, not to mention the diverse groups and movements of which the pretentious chimp writing about "the evolution of poetry in Nigeria" is but another roar of waterfall, cloudburst ( and here I'm thinking of these lines from Joshua Idehen's "River Niger to the Coloniser":

 

"measure me in vengeance 

You have never seen my final form 


child, I was an ocean 

Long before you were born 


what are you but another man 

claiming what he doesn't understand 


a baby trying to name his mother

ask my children for some wisdom"


It's 11.56 am here in Stockholm, six hours ahead of New York 

that's the time difference between The Big Apple and the capital

of " Little America" 


"The drunken politician leaps

Upon the street where mothers weep

And the saviours who are fast asleep…" ETC 


Oohay rhymes with so much  - and since you are friend  - not foe 

the kind of rhymes one can have in mind  

are not of the most unkindest cut in kind.

So here's some "Good News Nigeria"

and it's not about a band full of angels 

being sent by Jehovah from Jupiter

to set captives and rebel rousers 

like Omoyele Sowore

free.

 

The good news from here for free electrons like Baba Kadiri and me 

 is that they'll soon be showing two Nollywood films on Swedish TV! 


Six days ago Everybody loves Jenifa had its premiere in Stockholm 👍 at the main cinema theatre: 


https://www-svt-se.translate.goog/kultur/everybody-loves-jenifa-blir-forsta-nigerianska-filmen-att-visas-pa-filmstaden?_x_tr_sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc


I'm really impressed that you played Macbeth  - it definitely shows some early leadership qualities in you that you actually got the part. I was also a member of our drama club at secondary school, and the literary and debating society too, where I fared better ; at the drama club everybody wanted to play the major roles  - especially the pushy ones -  I played a minor role in Macbeth, a minor role in Eric Linklater's " Crisis in Heaven " where I had only one line : " Look to the  lady" ( as she fainted);  of course in Julius Caesar, I definitely wanted the part of Mark Antony - unfortunately, so did everyone else ( for the annual Speech Day and Prize-Giving ceremony at which all the big shot parents would be present ) but because I didn't  push too hard, had to settle for that of Antony's servant who brought the message to the assassins at the capitol and the lines are still fresh from my fifteen year old's mind, as was the trembling, when I delivered them : 


ANTONY'S SERVANT[kneeling] 


Thus, Brutus, did my master bid me kneel.

[falls prostrate] 

Thus did Mark Antony bid me fall down,

And, being prostrate, thus he bade me say:

Brutus is noble, wise, valiant, and honest.

Caesar was mighty, bold, royal, and loving.

Say I love Brutus, and I honour him.

Say I feared Caesar, honoured him, and loved him.

If Brutus will vouchsafe that Antony

May safely come to him and be resolved

How Caesar hath deserved to lie in death,

Mark Antony shall not love Caesar dead

So well as Brutus living , but will follow

The fortunes and affairs of noble Brutus

Thorough the hazards of this untrod state

With all true faith. So says my master Antony."


However, Dr Oohay, depending on the extent to which you took the part to heart, I trust that  you have not since then, imbibed / integrated/ assimilated Macbeth's character or any other Machiavellian tactics which on the other hand could prove useful provided that you don't intend to machine-gun your way to the Naija presidency ,if you don't get the swagger that comes with the sway through the ballot box…


BTW, I think that's what must have happened to some of our leaders , some of them must have played Hitler in some theatre or other, some Saddam Hussein, and got stuck in the role; some others among our Saro Creole leaders are still making speeches in which they try to sound like the late Winston Churchill  , even as  - politically speaking, they are pulling out our teeth with pliers , you can hear some of my peers, still in the braggadocio mode, boasting  "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender…








On Thursday, 26 December 2024 at 03:03:31 UTC+1 Dr. Oohay wrote:
I played Macbeth in high school and many verses and lines in MACBETH still echo or appear around me. I regard "Shakespeare" as (arguably) the greatest/MOST CREATIVE dramatist the world has ever experienced and continues to experience.

Oohay






On Wednesday, December 25, 2024, 2:12 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,

And then is heard no more. It is a tale

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing." (Great lines from the "Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow"Speech 


When the dumb-ass idiot reads this he thinks that Shakespeare is talking about him 



On Wednesday, 25 December 2024 at 18:48:49 UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:

Important correction:


The very first lines I ever read by him (Itumeleng) accidentally opening the book at page 99 as if I was consulting the I Ching  , the lines on page 99 :


She opens up her legs 

instead of her heart 

        and says

"Here, this is all the love I have to give"

only to wash herself up afterwards.

                   Tell me then,

how could she ever understand 

whenever you felt misused?

No, you opened your heart,

cut it deep with a knife.

Bleeding you offered yourself to ask,

               "Is this enough?",

just as she turned around to spit

                "Tough"

She kisses a like she meant it, 

    and when she thinks 

    you're not looking, 

she turns around to spit  

_____________________________________________

And that was the end of page 99; the rest, that's below, was me musing on Kabir saying that he  laughs when he hears that the fish in the water is complaining of thirst: 


Well, over here, love, sex etc 

is everywhere, no reason for you

to drown in the Mediterranean 

for the sake of honey or wanting 

to get some of it. Some hussy. 


N.B. I know quite a few poets in this country 
On Wednesday, 25 December 2024 at 18:05:51 UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:



HAFIZ


I'm wondering ,where is Amatoritsero Ede 

and what's happening with his Maple Tree Literary Supplement ?


I'm asking this as I leaf through Rainbow People by Itumeleng / The Journey by Lefifi Tladi 

and wondering why Ede doesn't rope in these two, albeit Itumeleng ( "Tumi" ) posthumously. 


The very first lines I ever read by him (Itumeleng) accidentally opening the book at page 99 as if I was consulting the I Ching  , the lines on page 99 :


She opens up her legs 

Instead of her heart 

        and says

"Here, this is all the love I have to give"

Only to wash herself up afterwards.

                   Tell me then,

How could she ever understand 

Whenever you felt misused?

No, you opened your heart,

cut it deep with a knife.

Bleeding you offered yourself to ask,

               Is this enough?",

just as she turned around to spit

                "Tough"

She kisses a like she meant it, 

and when she thinks 

you're not looking, 

She turns around and spits  


Well, over here, love, sex etc 

is everywhere, no reason for you

 to drown in the Mediterranean 

for the sake of honey or wanting 

to get some of it. Some hussy. 


Kabir says, "I laugh when I hear that the fish in the water is thirsty" 


Well that's Kabir's opinion  and I have never known anyone,

not even Robert Bly to argue with him about such a things as 

"water is wet" 


Over here too, the idiot feels insulted when he's told that he's an idiot 


The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.


"I'm a poet, I know it, hope I don't blow it"


"Grandpa died last week

And now he's buried in the rocks

But everybody still talks about

How badly they were shocked

But me, I expected it to happen

I knew he'd lost control

When he built a fire on Main Street

And shot it full of holes"


Just like grandpa, the driver of the vehicle had completely lost all control.


This is what happens when under the midday sun you mix the palm wine, the akpeteshie ( ogogoro) with some rum, jump into your jalopy and tell your wife or wives  that you're going for a drive, or you're going for a run. 


Half a mile down the road he crashed into one of the stalls at Makola Market in Accra.


In no time at all the hungry police were at the scene of the accident. 


If you really want to call things by their proper names, it's known as kalabule

In advance, hoping for some bribe money, they said the accident was a crime,

a crime against humanity. 


The driver of the vehicle pleaded his innocence and told the police, pointing at a nearby leper who had witnessed the accident, " Just ask Mr. Leper over there, what happened."


Mr. Leper told the police: 


 "It was insane!",  he said, and pointing at the driver, he continued "He must have been driving at 100 m-p-h , no brakes , no horn, it looked like he didn't know where he was going, crashed into Mama Abie's stall and as you can see, completely mucked up everything!


The driver stared at the leper and said, " Tell the truth: Is that what happened?"

The leper returned the driver's stare and asked,"  Is Mr. Leper my name?"


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