Dr Oohay,
As usual, very interesting, some of these controversial things that you say.
Throw us back to an earlier era and one of our bare-assed but not so primitive Man Friday type of ancestors would have been asking you, "Dr Livingstone, I presume?"
One bright morning in February 1964, Dr Eric Williams the Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago and also the author of Capitalism and Slavery addressed us at the morning assembly at our secondary school, The Prince of Wales School. His address had an enormous impact on yours truly.
Just as the poet put it : And that has made all the difference.
Some of the causes enumerated in Dick Harrison's article, kidnapping, war captives, debt slavery etc have not been eradicated and up to very recently Africans were being auctioned in Libya
No matter how extreme you may be in bending over backwards in this case, you must admit, sounding a little like an experienced House Negro, I hope that you'll continue to be black , and that's one more reason why you shouldn't be waltzing with David Horowitz on the sensitive matter of Reparations
We have Slavery endorsed in the Bible which is some people's ultimate authority when it comes to morality, you've thoroughly masticated and digested Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism , Walter Rodney's How Europe Underdeveloped Africa and his Decolonial Marxism: Essays from the Pan-African Revolution , that's where you're coming from and I understand that your dilemma is probably being further fuelled by the ideal missionary claim mostly addressed to Kunta Kinte in chains : "The truth shall set you free " - and the later reinforcement of cheerful servitude, of Shmiling and Shuffering with unalloyed joy, Paul of course preaching, "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." -
in contrast with El Hajj Malik Shabazz's opinion that
Malcolm X also said, "You can have capitalism without racism", and that's why he was murdered.
Charity beginning at home, Islam succeeded in reforming and transforming the then decadent elements in the society to which the Message of the Quran was initially delivered.
Islam and Slavery : There are several passages in both the Quran and hadiths where slave owners are encouraged to free their slaves ( their human capital)
Maxime Rodinson says that if a revelation had come through the Archangel Gabriel ( the bringer of good news ) to the Prophet of Islam ,sallallahu alaihi wa salaam, with a specific AMR / commandment that all those who own slaves should free them all immediately, then the Meccan slave-owning elites would have deserted Islam faster than an arrow shot from a bow…
Post-the Berlin Conference of 1884-5, during the ensuing Cold War years in Africa, the ideological war between Capitalism and Communism the boogeyman , as framed by the Western hemisphere ( Uncle Sam & Allies terrified that the ANC would nationalise the mines - ditto why they murdered Lumumba ) and if you had been around then, you would have come across as a useful American asset, for promoting this kind of jazz, at that germane time, perhaps imbued with the spirit of Lent, that "there is none that is righteous, not even one " , that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory" - at least that's how I interpret the sum total of what you say in this thread; which hopefully, is not your last word with regard to the thorny issue of #Reparations For Slavery….##REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY
Miles Davis : Kind of BlueOn Thursday, 13 March 2025 at 08:38:18 UTC+1 Dr. Oohay wrote:The question of the origin[s] of the African slaves is far less important than the more plausible and more documentable reality that we have yet to find any civilization (modern or ancient) that can claim to be innocent and thus the Marxist claim of the workers as innocent or good by default and the capitalist as thus evil does not hold water at all. Marx (for me) appears NOT primarily as a most reliable social historian or social psychologist or economist but as a most RHETORICALLY influential RADICAL POLEMICIST (ever so far).Let me remind us of what Churchill once reminded us of — capitalism is the worst form of government, but show me a better one.There AIN'T non-governmental or nonprofit organization: from WHERE does nonprofit directly or indirectly get its money??????OohayOohay---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: SvD Dick Harrison <s...@utskick.svd.se>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 at 15:02
Subject: What was the origin of the African slaves?
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11 mars 2025
What was the origin of the African slaves?
It happens quite often that I get emails from primary and secondary school students who want help with various exam assignments and special projects, which include interviewing a researcher. I usually volunteer, as much as I have time, and every now and then I get really good questions that are really difficult to Google the answers to. Such was the case a few weeks ago, when the questioners wanted to know exactly how the West African slave traders got hold of slaves that they could sell to the Europeans and Americans. What do the sources look like, and what do they say?
As an example, I gave the missionary Sigismund Kölle, who was active in the colony of Sierra Leone in the mid-19th century and conducted an interview study of 177 male slaves who had been freed by the British and relocated to the colony, which functioned as a haven for former slaves. The interviewees came from various African countries, and around 30 percent had served under African owners before they ended up in the hands of Westerners.
More than a third, 34 percent, of those interviewed explained that their time in captivity had begun by being captured in war, either after regular battles or in the annual raids that the horse-riding peoples of the West African savanna subjected their farming neighbors to.
Around 30 percent of those interviewed had instead been kidnapped by roving slave hunters. This was a major problem especially in the land of the Igbo people in present-day Nigeria, as well as in other African regions that lacked a state society with the means to protect the inhabitants.
11 percent claimed that they had been enslaved as punishment for crimes, especially adultery. Two men had been sentenced to life in captivity as punishment because some of their relatives had been found guilty of practicing witchcraft. Such offenses were often subject to collective punishment.
Seven percent of Kölle's informants had become slaves as a result of poverty, because they could not pay the family's debts. However, none of those interviewed stated that they had voluntarily become slaves to avoid starvation, but we know from other sources that this was not uncommon. The export of slaves from many African societies culminated in times of crop failure and famine.
Kölle's research shows the diversity of enslavement. We have many more examples of this. In 1839, the slaves on the ship Amistad revolted off Cuba. Instead of successfully making it home to Africa, the Africans navigated incorrectly and ended up on Long Island outside New York, after which they became the subject of a famous trial, best known in our time through Steven Spielberg's film "Amistad" (1997).
During the trial, the biographies of the slaves were recorded. Almost all the slaves came from the same area of Sierra Leone and spoke the same language, Mende, and they had been enslaved at about the same time. Despite this, their life stories differed considerably. 17 of the 37 surviving slaves had been kidnapped. They had been walking on paths or roads and were suddenly attacked by groups of two to six men. Five people had been enslaved by state action, for example as punishment for a crime. Four people had been sold or pawned by their own relatives. Only six slaves had been taken as prisoners in war or major raids. The other five slaves have no mention of enslavement in the documents.
We must therefore not make the mistake of generalizing about the origin of the slaves. Even within the framework of the same African area and the same time period, enslavement took place in several different ways. Anyone could be affected.
My latest history column is about the "multipolar world order" and its predecessors. How have the great powers acted towards each other in the past ?
/Dick Harrison
The Amistad case ended happily
The Amistad case has been the subject of considerable research, and the fantastic story – which ended happily – has also appeared previously in my columns.
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