Tuesday, December 30, 2025

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30th December, 2025


Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju : 


First the good news : The rift between Pope Leo XIV and Trump is approaching


Hallelujah


At least Trump the politician must be astute enough to understand that he must curb the disdain and the usual uncouth manner in which he derides and likes to insult, downgrade, vilify, bully, belittle, ridicule and demonise anyone who criticises him. He must realise that he cannot verbally attack this planet's beloved Pope Leo XIX with his usual vulgarity or savagery for the simple reason that the common decency which he sometimes seems to lack, dictates that he cannot afford to antagonise the great majority including the great Roman Catholic section of the American electorate and remain popular in the country that he wants to make great again. 


Just in case he doesn't know, Pope Leo XIV is infinitely more popular than Donald Trump the wannabe Emperor 


Niger mobilises for war 


Iran says, Bring it on! 


Trump has emboldened White Racist Pastors 


"Top 300 Jewish Hollywood actors you need to know "


Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, as usual, many thanks for your capable, valuable, sometimes vulnerable, contentious insights, given our tolerance for diversity of opinion,  some of them , if not outlandish or preposterous, always worth engaging with…


When are you going to stop hating the Fulani people? When? 


I would go a step further with your practical conclusion ; you say, " I will cautiously accept that help." If indeed you  genuinely want to escape what you paint as the crucible/ veritable quagmire, including the perilous Lagos - Ibadan highway on which Anthony Joshua but not two of his travelling companions narrowly escaped death, you could petition Trump directly and on humanitarian grounds such as the fear of death by terrorism, fear of Boko Haram, fear of the Fulani, apply for asylum in the United States. In some eyes that would be the equivalent of selling your precious soul to the devil.  In my view the only thing that would probably disqualify you is the documented sympathy and understanding that you have been recently expressing for HAMAS who as you know are anathema to Trump .


Trump could therefore view you as a potential terrorist. Trump doesn't want HAMAS sympathisers and potential terrorists in his country, he says that his country needs more immigrants from Norway, Sweden and Denmark :  


https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=849363087899431&set=a.121397354029345


https://www.google.com/search?q=Donald+Trump+says+we+need+more+immigrants+from+Norway%2C+Sweden%2C+and+Denmark&


Re - Baba Kadiri's piece titled " President Donald Trump And His Nigerian Ephialtes Eurydemus, Judas Iscariot And Vidkun Quisling Supporters" - it's most likely that it's the more familiar Judas Iscariot usually understood as the Gospels' villain of the piece that caught the Christian literati's attention about the gravity of Nigeria's current dire situation, with Baba Kadiri's insinuations about bribery and betrayal - Judas and those 30 pieces of silver (corruption writ large) certainly treasonous betrayal of the Pan-African ideals of sovereignty, national glory, pride in self-sufficiency and not having to be on the verge of conniving with a foreign power, the veritable crime  committed by those who go cringing and crying to Trump who has already designated the entire Pan-African landscape with the unforgivably nauseous term "shithole countries",  possibly the reason why they go crying to him to redeem them from the shit and the stench from the alleged ongoing genocide of Nigeria's Christians. 


Take note :Through the ages it has been and still is a popular anti-Semitic trope to portray Jews who still reject the idea of Jesus as the Messiah  as the personification of Judas Iscariot no matter their reasons for not accepting Jesus as their Messiah 


This depiction is often emotionally charged: 


In Freetown, Sierra Leone, on Good Friday; I suppose there are still the usual gangs of street urchins going around dancing with effigies of Judas, beating the shit out of those effigies , singing in Krio, 


"Judas die don tiday 

We go bury am tomorrow"


Translation : We're going to beat Judas to death today, and bury him tomorrow.  


 We must note that the Israelis under Netanyahu ( not to be conflated  with the more ancient Israelites) also went crying and still go crying to their best friend, the taghut, wannabe Emperor Donald J Trump, go crying to him for salvation from the perceived enemy, go crying about the Palestinians, crying about terrorism, beseeching Trump for more protection, more weapons, more military aid, crying about the alleged nuclear threat being posed by the Mullahs in Iran, planning by overt and covert means to reject any two-state solution ( perish the thought or conception) praying that Trump will assist 100%  in containing Syria, in maintaining the Golan Heights under Israeli sovereignty/control and ultimately of making a united, not a divided Jerusalem the eternal capital of the world's only Jewish State 


Israelis calling on Trump,  diverse Nigerian Christians also looking upon him as their earthly saviour ( not from the hellfire, just from decimation…


You may mark with some distress or dissatisfaction that in Christopher Marlowe's Dr Faustus there is the occasion when  Faustus calls on God but the devil turns up instead 


Incidentally in Robert Graves' King  Jesus ( which I first read approximately 50 years ago), if I remember correctly, Judas is portrayed in a more sympathetic light , as the disciple who understood the significance of the role that he had to play , understood the import of Jesus saying  to him at the Last Supper, "What you are going to do, do quickly"


Graves' Oxford Lectures on  Poetry were briefly revisited around the time that Wole Soyinka was applying for that position ( Professor of Poetry at Oxford) - I have  yet to read Graves' The Nazarene Gospel Restored  which perhaps provides  more conjecture and speculations about historical reality of Jesus ' role in the history of mankind  - suffice it to say that convinced by Idries Shah , Robert Graves embraced Sufism and eventually passed away in Majorca… 


Modern Bible Scholarship wants to confirm the positive interpretation of the role and they have even unearthed "The Gospel of Judas " which I'm sure the astronaut or cosmonaut who is committed to "Exploring Every Corner of the Cosmos in Search of knowledge" would like to investigate  


Nothing positive about this: There are those who are capable of selling their souls to the devil for chicken shit money or even a little bit of honey 



On Tuesday, 30 December 2025 at 07:06:30 UTC+1 Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
Let me laugh in Portuguese as some would say.

I used to detest Trump even before his role in the Gaza genocide.

BUT....

With an imperialist Islamist and Fulanization agenda through blood and human lives running riot in Nigeria in which Trump has intervened to help salvage us from a govt that looks complicit in the terror, I have had to cautiously embrace him.

The terrorists have reached Kwara. In Buhari's time the Fulani militia and violent Fulani herdsmen were almost everywhere.

What will I do if they show up in Lagos as they are doing to Abuja?

How will I cope if they blow up the Lagos-Ibadan train while I am on it or seize my bus from Ibadan to Osogbo?

God forbid!

This is the reality for many in the North.

Yet from the same North unequivocal voices condemning this horror are not easy to find.

Happily the governor of a Northern Muslim state has called for the US  bombing to be extended to his state to wipe out the idiots.

One needs to be alive to reflect on justice in Gaza etc 

If the person who enabled genocide in Gaza wants to help me escape subjugation and genocide  in my own country will I refuse but surrender to my fate?

I will not. I will cautiously accept that help.

That is the Nigerian situation.

This is the view of many and likely most people in Southern Nigeria.

Thanks 

Toyin 




On Mon, Dec 29, 2025, 2:17 PM ogunlakaiye <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
One man's terrorist is another man's liberator!!  Those fighting against Nazi-like apartheid minority rulers in South Africa were for many years branded terrorists by the US governments controlled either by the Republicans or Democrats. All united Nations resolution condemning the apartheid regime of South Africa before 1994 were vetoed by the US Government regardless of if it were a Republican or a Democrat controlled. 
Although Nelson Mandela subsequently became President of South Africa in 1994 and voluntarily retired in 1998, it was not until Thursday, May 8, 2008 that the US House of Representatives adopted a Bill aimed at taking Nelson Mandela, and the African National Congress (ANC) off a US terror black list. The Democratic House Foreign Affairs Chairman, Howard Berman said, "This long overdue Bill is the direct result of a stunning and frankly embarrassing story for the United States . . . Congress has never resolved the inconsistency in our immigration code that treats many of those who actively opposed apartheid in South Africa as terrorists and criminals." 
Donald Trump is an inheritor of a country that came into existence through genocide and a country that has perpetrated the underdevelopment of Africa, a country that stunted the capacity of Africa to achieve greatness, a country that has presided over the appalling poverty, desperation and alienation of the majority of African people and as such, he is not qualified to teach us lessons about our national security. Lions must first become vegetarians before they can preach peaceful co-existence to zebras and gazelles in the Savannah.
S. Kadiri 

On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 11:59:18 AM UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:

Trump also pardoned the Thanksgiving Turkey which was martyred in the White House. 

( Reminiscent of this piece of Dick Gregory  )


 REPARATIONS is anathema to Trump & the devils and will probably

continue to be so after listening to some treacherous, bending-over-backwards Desmond Tutu -style apologia ( lifting out of context this sliver of meaning "surely Africans can seek healing and forgiveness for African youth" which the likes ofTrump would love to translate as implying in the name of Jesus, "surely Africans can seek healing and forgiveness for white Supremacists and their ancestral slave owners and oppressors ?"


BTW I'd like to see the movie " Julius Malema vs Donald Trump at The African Immigration & Diaspora Court of Justice"



On Monday, 29 December 2025 at 05:58:28 UTC+1 Biko Agozino wrote:
Ignoramus,

Trump forgave 1,600 fans of his who were jailed for attacking lawmakers and law enforcement officers, he pardoned a narco president from South America who was serving long terms in US prison, and if it was up to him, the records and files of pedophile billionaires that he chummed with would never be released tyo the public, including his supporters. Some people may say that your Old Testament vindictive anti-hero likes to forgive the unforgivable while punishing innocent children born to undocumented immigrants and poor workers whose healthcare funding isb being slashed to fund tax cuts for his rich family and friends. No be so?

Biko

On Sunday, 28 December 2025 at 22:48:41 GMT-5, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovadep...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks John.

How can Hamas try to gain justice for the Palestinians by seeking to impose a version of Islam on others?

The people justice is being sought from is Israel.

Hamas cannot force Islamic doctrine on Israel.

That is different from Boko Haram, for example.

Boko Haram are not operating in a situation where they are dispossessed of their land, as the Palestininas have been for generations. Boko Haram is not fighting for a people under the almost absolute control of an occupying power who has power of life and death over them and regularly exercises it, as Israel has over the Palestinians.

 Boko Haram, and others like them, have simply chosen to deny others the right to choose how they want to live in a situation where there is no oppressor to seek justice from and decided to impose their version of Islam on others through terrrorism.

Their actions are a matter of choice. That of Hamas more a matter of necessity than of choice.

Hamas employs terror tactics because that is the only weapon they have  against a vastly more powerful opponent in a struggle for justice for their people.

Not because they want to impose a version of Islam on the Israelis against whom the terror tactics are directed. 

Boko Haram, on the other hand, use terror tactics on the Nigerian people because they want to establish an Islamic state in Nigeria, a stance that applies to a significant  number of jihadi groups.

Is any of those jihadi groups in the same situation as Hamas in relation to an  occupying power?

The situation in Gaza is a war situation. The two sides are Israel and the Palestinian people.

Israel is not interested in a just peace. Arafat's terrorist PLO has morphed into a peaceful Fatah in charge of the West bank yet the same West Bank is increasingly annexed by Israel and its Arab citizens terrorised by the Israeli state and Israeli settlers.

The only answer Israel has for Palestinians who refuse to take up arms against an overwhelming powerful enemy is further subjugation and land annexation.

The primary mission of Hamas is not the imposition of a particular kind of government on anyone, an idea that is meaningless in relation to Israel. That is also not their mission  in relation to the Palestinians. Israel would let them get on with their Islamic govt as long as they dont disturb the Israeli occupation but their resistance to the Israeli occupation is the beginning and the end of their existence as Palestinians. It is the seeking of a self governing homeland for their dispossessed people.

Terrorism through asymmetric warfare is the weapon they have since the opponent is immensely powerful, the opponent's  power aided by its Western allies who add to its arsenal to bomb into non-existence a people with only a miniscule fraction of the power of the Israeli armed forces.

Israel has more options but chooses subjugation and genocide on a scale and ferocity unseen in human history.

thanks

toyin



On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 5:51 PM John Edward Philips (Yahaya Danjuma) <yahaya....@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure I can agree with this interpretation of Hamas. There are many groups seeking justice for the Palestinians. Some are secular Arab nationalist or have other political philosophies. Hamas is trying to do it by imposing their interpretation of Islam on others. They are Jihadi Islamic terrorists. Their particular version of Jihadism descends from the Muslim Brothers through their Secret Apparatus, and is different from other Jihadi terrorist groups (ISIS was thrown out of al-Qa'ida, and Boko Haram was thrown out of ISIS), but it is still jihadi terrorism that is trying to impose its version of Islam on others. 

On Dec 28, 2025, at 09:30, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovadep...@gmail.com> wrote:

Boko Haram, ISWAP, ISIS, who are seeking to impose their version of Islam on others through violence are of course different from Hamas who are seeking justice in connection with the loss of Palestinian homeland.


John Edward Philips, Professor Emeritus

Department of International Society Hirosaki University, Japan


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