Also putting it straight :
One man's terrorist is another man's liberator!! Those fighting against Nazi-like apartheid minority rulers in South Africa were for many years branded terrorists by the US governments controlled either by the Republicans or Democrats. All united Nations resolution condemning the apartheid regime of South Africa before 1994 were vetoed by the US Government regardless of if it were a Republican or a Democrat controlled.Although Nelson Mandela subsequently became President of South Africa in 1994 and voluntarily retired in 1998, it was not until Thursday, May 8, 2008 that the US House of Representatives adopted a Bill aimed at taking Nelson Mandela, and the African National Congress (ANC) off a US terror black list. The Democratic House Foreign Affairs Chairman, Howard Berman said, "This long overdue Bill is the direct result of a stunning and frankly embarrassing story for the United States . . . Congress has never resolved the inconsistency in our immigration code that treats many of those who actively opposed apartheid in South Africa as terrorists and criminals."Donald Trump is an inheritor of a country that came into existence through genocide and a country that has perpetrated the underdevelopment of Africa, a country that stunted the capacity of Africa to achieve greatness, a country that has presided over the appalling poverty, desperation and alienation of the majority of African people and as such, he is not qualified to teach us lessons about our national security. Lions must first become vegetarians before they can preach peaceful co-existence to zebras and gazelles in the Savannah.S. KadiriOn Monday, December 29, 2025 at 11:59:18 AM UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:Trump also pardoned the Thanksgiving Turkey which was martyred in the White House.
( Reminiscent of this piece of Dick Gregory )
REPARATIONS is anathema to Trump & the devils and will probably
continue to be so after listening to some treacherous, bending-over-backwards Desmond Tutu -style apologia ( lifting out of context this sliver of meaning "surely Africans can seek healing and forgiveness for African youth" which the likes ofTrump would love to translate as implying in the name of Jesus, "surely Africans can seek healing and forgiveness for white Supremacists and their ancestral slave owners and oppressors ?"
BTW I'd like to see the movie " Julius Malema vs Donald Trump at The African Immigration & Diaspora Court of Justice"
On Monday, 29 December 2025 at 05:58:28 UTC+1 Biko Agozino wrote:Ignoramus,Trump forgave 1,600 fans of his who were jailed for attacking lawmakers and law enforcement officers, he pardoned a narco president from South America who was serving long terms in US prison, and if it was up to him, the records and files of pedophile billionaires that he chummed with would never be released tyo the public, including his supporters. Some people may say that your Old Testament vindictive anti-hero likes to forgive the unforgivable while punishing innocent children born to undocumented immigrants and poor workers whose healthcare funding isb being slashed to fund tax cuts for his rich family and friends. No be so?BikoThanks John.How can Hamas try to gain justice for the Palestinians by seeking to impose a version of Islam on others?The people justice is being sought from is Israel.Hamas cannot force Islamic doctrine on Israel.That is different from Boko Haram, for example.Boko Haram are not operating in a situation where they are dispossessed of their land, as the Palestininas have been for generations. Boko Haram is not fighting for a people under the almost absolute control of an occupying power who has power of life and death over them and regularly exercises it, as Israel has over the Palestinians.Boko Haram, and others like them, have simply chosen to deny others the right to choose how they want to live in a situation where there is no oppressor to seek justice from and decided to impose their version of Islam on others through terrrorism.Their actions are a matter of choice. That of Hamas more a matter of necessity than of choice.Hamas employs terror tactics because that is the only weapon they have against a vastly more powerful opponent in a struggle for justice for their people.Not because they want to impose a version of Islam on the Israelis against whom the terror tactics are directed.Boko Haram, on the other hand, use terror tactics on the Nigerian people because they want to establish an Islamic state in Nigeria, a stance that applies to a significant number of jihadi groups.Is any of those jihadi groups in the same situation as Hamas in relation to an occupying power?The situation in Gaza is a war situation. The two sides are Israel and the Palestinian people.Israel is not interested in a just peace. Arafat's terrorist PLO has morphed into a peaceful Fatah in charge of the West bank yet the same West Bank is increasingly annexed by Israel and its Arab citizens terrorised by the Israeli state and Israeli settlers.The only answer Israel has for Palestinians who refuse to take up arms against an overwhelming powerful enemy is further subjugation and land annexation.The primary mission of Hamas is not the imposition of a particular kind of government on anyone, an idea that is meaningless in relation to Israel. That is also not their mission in relation to the Palestinians. Israel would let them get on with their Islamic govt as long as they dont disturb the Israeli occupation but their resistance to the Israeli occupation is the beginning and the end of their existence as Palestinians. It is the seeking of a self governing homeland for their dispossessed people.Terrorism through asymmetric warfare is the weapon they have since the opponent is immensely powerful, the opponent's power aided by its Western allies who add to its arsenal to bomb into non-existence a people with only a miniscule fraction of the power of the Israeli armed forces.Israel has more options but chooses subjugation and genocide on a scale and ferocity unseen in human history.thankstoyin--On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 5:51 PM John Edward Philips (Yahaya Danjuma) <yahaya....@gmail.com> wrote:I'm not sure I can agree with this interpretation of Hamas. There are many groups seeking justice for the Palestinians. Some are secular Arab nationalist or have other political philosophies. Hamas is trying to do it by imposing their interpretation of Islam on others. They are Jihadi Islamic terrorists. Their particular version of Jihadism descends from the Muslim Brothers through their Secret Apparatus, and is different from other Jihadi terrorist groups (ISIS was thrown out of al-Qa'ida, and Boko Haram was thrown out of ISIS), but it is still jihadi terrorism that is trying to impose its version of Islam on others.--On Dec 28, 2025, at 09:30, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovadep...@gmail.com> wrote:Boko Haram, ISWAP, ISIS, who are seeking to impose their version of Islam on others through violence are of course different from Hamas who are seeking justice in connection with the loss of Palestinian homeland.John Edward Philips, Professor Emeritus
Department of International Society Hirosaki University, Japan
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