"One lecturer was caught half dressed in a female
hostel on video and the Internet is agog with condemnations, mostly
from persons who want to justify exilic preference" - Chidi Opara
Another characteristic silly talk from Chidi Anthony Opara. I have not once encountered anybody linking this to the exile versus homeland dynamic in all the discussions of this thing in all the internet fora to which you and I belong. You are flat out lying because of the infantile animus you nurse against people studying or teaching abroad. I hope the animus won't rupture your liver one of these days. When last did you see your doctor?
I challenge you, Chidi Anthony Opara: post one - just one - intervention from any forum that has even the faintest suggestion of anybody reading this from the perspective of "exilic preference" - whatever that nonsense means. That slant is a figment of your infertile and unhealthy imagination. And why do soldier ants always invade your pants and make you run naked to the market screaming and scratching you know what whenever you hear that some of us study or teach abroad? Yes, we do. Go and jump into the river Niger if you are not happy about it or go and write some prosaic drivel of a poem about it!
Pius
--- On Sat, 24/7/10, Chidi Anthony Opara <
chidi.opara@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Chidi Anthony Opara <
chidi.opara@gmail.com>
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
> To: "USA Africa Dialogue Series" <
usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 17:41
> "I am yet to see the fantastic thing
> about the naked physical
> apparatus in
> and of itself.What is important is the context of the
> experience.
>
> The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral
> issue at play
> are
> as follows:
>
> 1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is
> the man
> semi
> dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the
> person
> being embarrassed?
>
> 2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us
> they are?
>
> 3.What are their various motivations?
>
> 4.Why is the man able to regain his composure to a
> point even in
> the midst of that terrible situation?
>
> Most responses assume the guilt of the man being
> embarrassed.Some
> assume the
> guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see
> anything definite enough emerging from this scenario
> to justify any
> of these positions.
>
> The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to
> make informed conclusions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Toyin"
>
> Dear Forum Members,
>
> These are salient points. The man may have walked into a
> trap. What
> transpired between the lecturer and the female student
> before the
> incident? What is the campus profile of the supposed victim
> visa vis
> the lecturer? Is she for instance, one of those girls who
> attend
> parties in government houses every weekend in place of
> reading for
> theIr exams? Is this lecturer, for instance, one of those
> "toughies"
> who insist on grades being earned irrespective of whose
> girlfriend you
> are? We need to know all these.
>
> Tough lecturers are known to have some times met with this
> type of
> fate. This is however, not to suggest that the lecturer is
> free from
> blame.
>
> I have argued before now that the problems of Nigeria are
> systemic,
> but we prefer to narrow them down to individuals, like our
> "radicals"
> in Lagos baying for the blood of Maurice Iwu as solution to
> our
> electoral woes. One lecturer was caught half dressed in a
> female
> hostel on video and the Internet is agog with
> condemnations, mostly
> from persons who want to justify exilic preference.
>
> How do we build institutional frameworks that would halt
> further
> systemic failures? This to me is more important than this
> nude video
> blame game.
>
> Chidi Anthony Opara
>
> "Away with arts for arts' sake"
>
>
> On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <
>
>
> On Jul 23, 10:18 pm, toyin adepoju <
toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am yet to see the fantastic thing about the naked
> physical apparatus in
> > and of itself.What is important is the context of the
> experience.
> >
> > The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral
> issue at play are
> > as follows:
> >
> > 1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why
> is the man semi
> > dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over
> the person
> > being embarrassed?
> >
> > 2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video
> tells us they are?
> >
> > 3.What are their various motivations?
> >
> > 4.Why is the man able to regain his composure to a
> point even in
> > the midst of that terrible situation?
> >
> > Most responses assume the guilt of the man being
> embarrassed.Some assume the
> > guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont
> see
> > anything definite enough emerging from this scenario
> to justify any
> > of these positions.
> >
> > The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to
> to
> > make informed conclusions.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Toyin
> >
> > On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <
piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Toyin my brother:
> >
> > > How do you stage a Professor's naked dick inside
> the bedroom of a female
> > > student in Ekpoma? If I don't stop you in your
> track quick quick, by this
> > > evening you will quietly sneak in Baudrillard and
> begin to talk of
> > > simulacrum. I know you, my brother.
> >
> > > Well, if you gyrate in that direction as I
> suspect you inevitable will,
> > > remember that we have an explanation for
> Baudrillard and his simulacrum in
> > > Pidgin hermeneutics: we call it korokoro! I
> wonder why you are disavowing
> > > the theory of korokoro vision in this video right
> before your eyes?
> >
> > > Moses: I say a big AMEN to your wish that our
> youth should train those
> > > cameras on the randy dicks of our corrupt and
> worthless rulers in Abuja and
> > > the state capitals. Imagine how happy one would
> have been today if this
> > > thing had happened to a Governor, a Federal Rep,
> a Senator or a Minister!
> >
> > > Pius
> >
> > > --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <
toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>*
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: toyin adepoju <
toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> > > Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re:
> Professor caught pants down in
> > > female student's room... all on youtube!
> > > To: "Pius Adesanmi" <
piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
> > > Cc:
NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com,
>
naijaintellects@googlegroups.com,
> > >
usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com,
> "Edo-nationality" <
> > >
edo-national...@yahoogroups.com>,
> "
naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com"
> <
> > >
naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>,
> "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <
> > >
WoleSoyinkaSoci...@yahoogroups.com>,
> "
naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com"
> <
> > >
naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com>,
> "Nidoa" <
ni...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 21:49
> >
> > > Pius,
> >
> > > I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin is very
> good.
> >
> > > You are a scholar of the arts.You know that
> scenarios can be staged.Have
> > > you taught in a Nigerian university ? I have and
> I know from
> > > personal experience that students can do
> almost anything. You need to be
> > > very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.
> >
> > > Could the poor man not have been lured there for
> any reason and forced to
> > > strip under threats in the name of extortion?
> >
> > > In my case,referring to my own experience
> what would have happened if I
> > > had taken up on her implied offer the girl who
> asked me to look at her
> > > breasts while demanding to know her marks and
> came to see me during the
> > > holidays asking for the same information? A
> girl who would come late to
> > > lectures and display herself as she walked
> majestically into class?Lets
> > > assume I followed her to her room and met
> a set up? Lets assume that at
> > > the moment of action the trap was sprung. .One
> could be caught helpless,
> > > psychologically disoriented, and open to a broad
> range of manipulation. May
> > > such an evil scenario not befall us.
> >
> > > Or the story I heard of the student who instead
> of answering an exam
> > > question proceeded to describe in her exam
> paper what she could do to the
> > > vital organs of the male lecturer if given the
> opportunity?
> >
> > > Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in
> an exam hall because I
> > > refused to agree to her begging to be let off the
> hook when I caught her
> > > cheating The option of exchanging sex for a
> promise not to report her was
> > > one possibility. If that option had been pursued
> both the
> > > lecturer and student would have been guilty
> but who would be the
> > > oppressor there?
> >
> > > Or the students who used to come to my house to
> beg me not report that I
> > > found them cheating in exams? Or those who
> would visit me in my house to
> > > appeal to me to pass them after they had written
> the exams?
> >
> > > Imagine all the compromising possibilities
> emerging from my finding
> > > unwanted female visitors on my doorstep.
> >
> > > If I narrate the full range of possibil ities
> from real life scenarios you
> > > will get tired.
> >
> > > I expect lectures take advantage of students.I
> expect lecturers sleep with
> > > students they are teaching,both of which
> scenarios I consider wrong.It
> > > is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping
> with an adult student one
> > > is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is
> necessarily wrong although it
> > > could lead to complications. To claim total
> abstinence on that
> > > front,however, to me,is unrealistic and possibly
> hypocritica l.
> >
> > > Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might
> have been offered sex and
> > > went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to
> what was offered
> > > the girl was trying to demand more than he was
> ready to provide-marks, money
> > > etc and her accomplices set him up to extort
> him.
> >
> > > This scenario can be read in various ways
> indicating that we should not
> > > take anything we see in the video at face
> value.
> >
> > > Personally I have difficulty being excited
> about this video,perhaps
> > > because I have seen a worse situation. At the
> University of Benin a group of
> > > students led by the student union president
> kidnapped a lecturer and
> > > tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair
> that put the
> > > whole university in a frenzy.The lecturer was
> accused of serial victimisat
> > > ion of female students. The lecturer was
> powerless as the students were
> > > a desperate looking mob.They could have done
> anything to the man
> > > if they wanted to and in fear of his life he
> might have complied.
> > > Lets assume they made a video of that will all
> kinds of allegations
> > > plus extortion of money in return for his life
> or health of limb.As it is
> > > we would be seeing it only from the students
> perspect ive
> > > and not hear from the lecturer.
> >
> > > As it is,the entire scenario and the
> allegations against the
> > > lecturer were never properly investigated as
> far as I know.ASUU,the
> > > academic union, and the vice-chancellor, who was
> perceived as not being
> > > agile about the investigations, fell out on this
> issue,if I remember well
> > > the eventual outcome.
> >
> > > In almost any setting where male and female
> adults congregate in terms
> > > of physical contact sex is part of the equation
> and this creates
> > > various complication s of possibility and
> perspective. We need to be
> > > particularly careful when interpreting sexual
> scenarios. Women have been
> > > known to frame men for rape after consensual
> sex and destroy the poor man's
> > > career.
> >
> > > I prefer to get to the bottom of this story
> rather than assuming
> > > things on face value.
> >
> > > thanks
> > > toyin
> >
> > > On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi
> <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com<
http://mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,
> >
> > > How many times I call you? Now that you have
> seen the video, I must ask:
> > > what has Britain done to your pidgin? The
> dialogue is clear enough. Maybe
> > > dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better
> word. The girl and the boys
> > > outside clearly state their case. Unless you
> don't believe them or your
> > > pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney,
> I don't know what other
> > > evidence you are looking for. Must you see the
> Professor's exposed dick
> > > actually violate the territorial integrity of the
> lady's womanhood before
> > > you believe?
> >
> > > Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a
> Professor under-dressed in a
> > > female student's room with your korokoro eyes -
> with the student saying he
> > > had slept with her before and still failed her -,
> you hear one of the male
> > > students grumbling loudly about wetin lecturers
> don take im eye see, and
> > > you are still asking to see the nail holes in
> Jesus's hands before you can
> > > take a position.
> >
> > > Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is
> guilty. The students who turn
> > > the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of
> extorsion and blackmail are
> > > also guilty. The students and their Prof are us.
> That is our society. Stop
> > > asking for more evidence before you denounce this
> national tragedy in clear,
> > > unambiguous, and strong terms.
> >
> > > Pius
> >
> > > --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju
> <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com<
http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> > > >* wrote:
> >
> > > From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@
> googlemail. com<
http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> >
> > > Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re:
> [NIgerianWorldForum ] Re: NIDOA | Re:
> > > Professor caught pants down in female student's
> room... all on youtube!
> > > To: NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "bimbola adelakun" <adunnibabe@yahoo.
> com<
http://mc/compose?to=adunnib...@yahoo.com>
> >
> > > Cc: usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>,
> > > naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=naijaintellects@googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com<
http://mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>>,
> > > "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@
> yahoogroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=edo-national...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> > > "naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>"
> > > <naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com<
http://mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> > > "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSociety@
> yahoogroups.
> >
> > ...
> >
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