This is very telling. Nothing surprise me too any more! Sexuality is part of human life. It is the exploitation of it, in way that is inappropriate, improper, and intended toward abusing one's power over the other in ways of gaining self-advantages that is damning. That said no one of us, in so far as we are in this "human shirt" (our human condition) can be said to be immuned from making mistakes, though at times mistakes made out of poor judgments do have its own damning consequences- especially if and when caught. I hope that this Professor, in spite of the consequences of his action, and the rest of us can learn from this sad and mocking episode. The poor man could have made a mistake- and maybe it is even his first time! Though that good old saying "Many days for the thief, one day for the owner" would make it hard to believe. Within this forum, sometimes around January 19th, 2009, one Dr. Adegoroye was alleged to have spoken out against the evils of Professors exchanging sex for grades. He came under vigorous attack here, except for a few voices who insisted that the issue rather than the person should be the focus of debate. I think Professor Rev. Ike Obiora of CIDJAP, Enugu, and our own IBK defended Dr. Adegoroye, but they took heat too when hit by those critics of Dr. Adegoroye. In that case, under such scenario, how can dialogue lead to some interventional change in behavior and policies? ******************************* From: Obiora IKE <obior...@yahoo.com>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:03:25 -0800 (PST) Local: Mon, Jan 19 2009 12:03 pm Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: POWER-FULL Education Perm Sec Under Fire Dear Friends, General statements aside, did Dr. Goke Adegoroye lie with his speech and statement that "some lecturers" in our institutions of higher education "sell marks and harass female students for sex? Let,s face the issues of whether it happens and not the problem of who said it. The saintly and much acclaimed Catholic Nun, Mother Theresa of Calcutta who spent her entire life working for the poor was once interviewd by Journalists on what was wrong with the world as things continue to get worse everywhere. Her response which is an admission of truth bears repetition here... The nun looked on the journalists and in a soft voice said: "What is wrong with the world is You and Me". Time has come for all of us to accept the truth and reality of constant unethical behaviour at all levels of our society and to call them by name. There is no need calling a Spade a Hoe. When the truth is spoken, no matter how hard and by who, let it be that rational humans admit the truth that is spoken and repent with change. Asking why someone should mention that they happen and who has a right to mention the facts, is petitio principi in logic (begging the question). Rev Prof Obiora Ike Director Catholic Insitute for Development Justce and peace CIDJAP, Enugu In any case, what lessons do we all learn from it.
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From: Obododimma Oha <obodo...@gmail.com>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:48:25 +0100 Local: Mon, Jan 19 2009 12:48 pm Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: POWER-FULL Education Perm Sec Under Fire Rev. Prof. Ike, Declaring that Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female students is itself a very sick statement: it is, as you well know, a case of faulty generalization. Do all Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female students? Don't you think that such a claim amounts to being insensitive to facework and damaging the image of (all) lecturers in Nigeria? Is that kind of face-threatening assertion a way not to call a spade a hoe (or spoon, if you like)? OK, don't we know that some reverend gentlemen fornicate; can one, after studying logic, assert that Nigerian reverend gentlemen (including you) fornicate and we clap hands for him, that he or she possesses sound reasoning? I guess you have missed the point, Prof. Ike. We should, as it is the case in other countries, begin to interrogate and indeed express our objections to reckless statements that public figures and even heads of government sometimes make in Nigeria. Anyone who wants to address publics must be ready to demonstrate in his or her discourse that he or she is civilized! --- Obododimma Oha. --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Assensoh, Akwasi B. <aassenso@indiana.edu> wrote:
From: Assensoh, Akwasi B. <aassenso@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
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Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:44 AM
Brother Pius: The reported sad issue or event (debated below) refers to a professor, about whom we have read with our own "korokoro" eyes! Please, permit me to narrate a couple of scenarios that pale the story of the professor! Well, I still have a postcard (mailed to me by an African friend) showing a professor, dressed in dark suit and with his black briefcase lying open on a floor nearby (the open briefcase showed the professor's grade book). Did the professor have a trip-and-fall accident? No! Lying beneath the professor on the same floor was one of his gorgeous female students. In fact, in a cartoon language, the words allegedly coming out of the mouth of the female student were: "Prof., my grade oooo..." The words attributed to the professor were: "Just cooperate. You'll get highest grade in class..." I was shocked to see the postcard and the inscriptions attributed to the professor and his female student, both of whom were on the floor together and suppsoedly "ready for sordid business"! However, my shock was reduced or thinned when I was informed, about two weeks later, that the pastor of our former church in North Carolina was caught "naked" hiding in a closet in the home of his church's Minister of Music. Obviously, the pastor was providing some type of counselling for the couple. Sadly, when he realized that the male Minister of Music had reduced manhood( "Potence", and not performing "conjugal duties" very well at home), he decided (as the couple's pastor) to "help" the wife of his Minister of Music. This was an ordained minister, folks! The episode is one of several sad stories about clergymen being, allegedly, caught between sexual crossfire and romantic wars! In fact, one of America's top civil rights' leaders was, reportedly, guilty of what one of his biographers labelled openly in a published biography as his "sexual athlecticism". Therefore, nothing shocks me any more, not the Nigerian episode of the , obviously, blackmailed professor! Of course, out of shock, some of my good Nigerian friends might still exclaim: "Na waa oo...!" I am even told that in some African countries today, every "big man" has a wife (known as "desk-top computer") and a mistress (also called "my lap-top computer", which the "big man" carries around). If so, is it only a professor, who is guilty of such unfortunate situations? If there is need for cleansing, it should take place in classroooms, offices, ministries and even in churches! A.B. Assensoh, Bloomington, Indiana.
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,
How many times I call you? Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?
Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.
Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.
Pius
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, "bimbola adelakun" <adunnibabe@yahoo.com>
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Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24
I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take advantage of him?
Students in Nigerian universities also offer themselves to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.
We do not have adequate evidence to decipher what actually happened.
thanks toyin
On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote: Bimbola's Facebook account is here
but you might need a Facebook account to watch it. http://www.facebook.com/Adunnibabe?ref=search
thanks toyin
On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote: you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account. thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate this provision of information. toyin On 23 July 2010 14:10, <akinoakanji@yahoo.com> wrote: | Unfortunately Guys, The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation" We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene. Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube! Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM Here is the link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi < piusadesanmi@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Pius Adesanmi < piusadesanmi@yahoo.com> Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube! To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com, naijaintellects@googlegroups.comCc: "Edo-nationality" < edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>, " naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com" < naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>, "nigerianworldforum" < NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" < WoleSoyinkaSociety@yahoogroups.com>, " naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com" < naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>, "nai" < naijaintellects@googlegroups.com>, "Nidoa" < nidoa@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29 Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embeddedPius | __._,_.___ . ![]() __,_._,___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "naijaintellects" group. To post to this group, send email to naijaintellects@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to naijaintellects+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/naijaintellects?hl=en.
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