Pasotr Joe A:
To suggest that Nigerian Diasporans have not been making the efforts to establish and promote development and progress either within their ethnic communities or nationally, even in the face of insecurity and frustration from home Govt officials, is the wildest mis-statement of the Century! There are too many examples of these efforts and it could be tantamount to a deliberate mischief not to see them. Take care. JUI
From: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Ogbonna
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:36 AM
To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; Naija Politics (Group); Bring your baseball bat
Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Do Not Be In A HURRY To Come HOME/ Pres. Jonathan
"The people OWING Nigeria are waiting for Nigeria to give them more. The diasporan indians are not waiting for political appointments. Despite huge poverty in India (including corruption and poor infrastructure in many places), they are going home and creating things. Starting up businesses using the contacts they made in the West. There is need for a paradigm shift among the Nigerian diaspora" -Joe Attueyi
So how is a Nigerian cement Engineer in the Diaspora going to create a cement factory in Eleme when even Dangote himself can not get the electricity to power the ones that he already has? You guys are so eager to hold those of us in the diaspora in contempt that you sometimes miss the point: EVEN COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN NIGERIA HAVE BEEN LEAVING IN DROVES, and to such places as Ghana!
It gets worse: Even those of you who are climbing the home-based high horse are increasingly relocating your capital and your pregnancies and your families abroad, because you do NOT trust the Nigerian system. If you are sending you children to Ghana or New York for secondary school, why would you expect Dr Ojo to return his own kids to Ogun state? Am I missing something?
You are putting the cart before the horse! You are presuming that investors will invest out of sheer patriotism. That presumption is like communism -gracious in theory, unworkable in practice. 99% of people anywhere do NOT invest out of lofty values, such as patriotism. People invest capital to make PROFIT, and if they have to move jobs from American citizens to Indian citizens to make that PROFIT, that's exactly what they will do. That's how capitalism works!
For precisely the same reason, no matter where you go in the world, capital is a coward. It runs away from locations that are unstable, unpredictable, or grossly inefficient. Why? Because, as Joe Attueyi himself can attest to, making a business successfull and profitable is hard enough in itself, and if I have to waste my day searching for Gasoline as opposed to focusing on my core business -manufacturing cement - chances are I will cite my company in Accra if that is a credible option.Go back and re-study India. India did not come to life because, the Indian Diaspora suddenly turned things around. It case to life in the first instance because the Government did a 360 degree turn-around. When all things were even one-quarter-equal in Nigerian, Diaspora Nigerians would, like their Indian counterparts, flood home to exploit the opportunities that exist. We already saw an inkling of this when Okonjo Iweala and co were in charge.
So if Diapora Nigerians are not doing nearly enough, it is only to the extent that they are not bringing their muscle to bear on the political leadership of the country. We should all pressure our leaders to do better. Until then, expecting people, including Diaspora Nigerians, to push a truck uphill is a wasted effort.
One more thing: please do not OVERESTIMATE diaspora Nigerians. The majority of us here are actually victims, barely surviving, and often only just one or two paychecks away from SOCIAL WELFARE.
Otherwise, w\hy would a man in Dr Ojo's age-bracket still be here?
Why is professor Adeniran Adeboye still here?
Why am I still stuck here, when I could be nostalgically tending the udara trees in my house?
Abeg, no get me started.
Dominic
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com> wrote:
eRG,
Yours is a funny take but so true.
The people OWING Nigeria are waiting for Nigeria to give them more.
The diasporan indians are not waiting for political appointments. Despite huge poverty in India (including corruption and poor infrastructure in many places), they are going home and creating things. Starting up businesses using the contacts they made in the West.
There is need for a paradigm shift among the Nigerian diaspora.
Joe
--- In NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, eRG <edoregeneration@...> wrote:
>
> "Does our President know there are thousands of Dr. Dabiri, Dr. Ananaba, Dr.
> Igietseme, Dr. Gumel, Dr. Ola, Dr. Adeniran, Dr. Adesanmi, Mazi Emeka Okala,
> Mazi Chuks Agwunobi, Mazi Opubo Benebo, Mazi Pete Opara, Mazi Ike Agbor, the
> young Turks, Mazi Dominic Ogbonna and Mazi Ogonna, Dr. Nowa, Lady Joan Osai, Dr.
> Obi Nwakanma, Mr. controversy Dr. Aluko, ethnic irredentist Dr. Val Ojo, etc.
> scattered all over the world outside Nigeria" - DR Asagwara
>
> Mazi Asagwara,
>
> You've just reeled out names of Nigerians OWING Nigeria. I believe majority of
> these folks had scholarship at one time in their lives to study either at home
> or abroad. They should be giving back and NOT expected to be receiving by way of
> appointments or political patronage - that was the message President Jonathan
> was tying to pass across. I'm not surprised you guys missed it. You geezers are
> always on the lookout to fault the president. Remember, if you expect NOTHING
> good, you get nothing good! Expectation births manifestation.
>
> Ciao!
> eRG
> "God gives, Man hoards and Satan steals" - eRG's Father
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Asagwara, Ken (EDU-ECY)" <Ken.Asagwara@...>
> To: "NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com" <NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com" <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>;
> "talknigeria@yahoogroups.com" <talknigeria@yahoogroups.com>;
> "igboevents@yahoogroups.com" <igboevents@yahoogroups.com>;
> "ABIAUSA@yahoogroups.com" <ABIAUSA@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, 30 September, 2010 1:16:53
> Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: Re: [NaijaPolitics] [NaijaObserver]Diasporans
> Do Not Be In A HURRY To Come HOME/ Pres. Jonathan
>
>
> Eric/Folks:
>
> You apparently understood President GoodLuck Jonathan’s message to Diaspora
> Nigerians. Don’t come home; stay where you are so that we don’t have to compete
> or put up with you in our thieving of Nigeria ’s oil wealth. We are the cabal
> that run Nigeria ; remember what the mafia does to those that want to take bread
> from them. How sad!
>
>
> Instead of encouraging qualified Nigerians ready and willing to make a
> difference in national development effort to return home, our President, a
> former university teacher told us to stay where you are. Does our President know
> there are thousands of Dr. Dabiri, Dr. Ananaba, Dr. Igietseme, Dr. Gumel, Dr.
> Ola, Dr. Adeniran, Dr. Adesanmi, Mazi Emeka Okala, Mazi Chuks Agwunobi, Mazi
> Opubo Benebo, Mazi Pete Opara, Mazi Ike Agbor, the young Turks, Mazi Dominic
> Ogbonna and Mazi Ogonna, Dr. Nowa, Lady Joan Osai, Dr. Obi Nwakanma, Mr.
> controversy Dr. Aluko, ethnic irredentist Dr. Val Ojo, etc. scattered all over
> the world outside Nigeria that can help launch Nigeria into the orbit of
> socio-scientific and economic success, if encouraged to return home as is
> presently the case for India, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Indonesia, etc.?
>
>
> Oh Naija, our beloved country. I keep saying. What a country! What a people!!
>
> Mazi KC Prince Asagwara
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com [mailto: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of ericayoola@...
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:27 PM
> To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com ; talknigeria@yahoogroups.com ;
> igboevents@yahoogroups.com; ABIAUSA@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] [NaijaObserver]Diasporans Do Not Be In A HURRY To
> Come HOME/ Pres. Jonathan
>
>
>
> For those wishing to run home to partake of the national cake, here is your wake
> up call, stay were you are, rather than retrurn home to join the many home based
> Nigerians looting and ruining the country. Of course not all have access to
> public funds but those that have such access steal as much as their greed
> dictates.
>
> I'd rather stay abroad and be part of the Nigerian solution than to return home
> to become part of the Nigerian problem.
>
> When you return home you will need to play the game the way it is played, bribe
> those to be bribed, cur corners as they are cut and take as much as you can
> giving back little.
>
> With another 4 more years of the corrupt PDP looming, it is clear that Nigeria
> is not yet ready to turn over a new leaf, LET THE ILABE CONTINUE.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vincent modebelu <vin_modebelu@...>
> To: OBSERVE YOURSELF < NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com >
> CC: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com ;
> talknigeria@yahoogroups.com ; igboevents@yahoogroups.com;
> ABIAUSA@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:59
> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] [NaijaObserver]Diasporans Do Not Be In A HURRY To Come
> HOME/ Pres. Jonathan
>
> ...........Nigerians living abroad should not be in a hurry to return home,
> except those that don’t have genuine businesses. He said that great countries
> of the world today have their nationals spread around the rest of the world,
> “we we want our people to be everywhere because we have the human resources to
> do well anywhere we are.†............ .........Jonathan
>
>
> Chei
> This is a KNOCK OUT for those who are waiting for a BIG appointment because
> they are the TOP DOGS in Diaspora.
> The President says """""“I will not play politics with the development of
> Nigeria .†""""""
> Those in Nigeria can and will develop Nigeria .......better than these
> imported men.
>
> Well, why do we import WHITE MEN ON CONTRACTS ?.........Hhhhhmmmm
>
> Those Universities have produced those that can lead Nigeria pass vision
> 2020.. They Need ...what they need...what ever that is ..or what ever they are
> ..to surpass Singapore and Brazil and all those Nigeria country wanna
> bees.
> After all, most of those Nigerians attended nigerian Universities.
>
> So...many people should relax...stay out of Nigeria...NO FUTURE FOR YOU
> THERE unless you have a LEGITIMATE BUSINESS....The GoodLuck man says so.
> we we want our people to be everywherebecause we have the human resources to
> do well anywhere we are
>
> Make sure you are up to date with your mortgages, stop running your mouths
> thinking that your are heading home very soon, NOT SO FAST.
>
> America ...how many ways do we love thee?
>
> vin.....///
>
>
> I won’t play politics with Nigeria’s future â€" Jonathan
> From JULIANA TAIWO, Abuja
> Monday, September 27, 2010
>
> •President Jonathan
> Photo: Sun News Publishing
> More Stories on This Section
> President Goodluck Jonathan during the weekend, at a mini-political rally,
> packaged by the Jonathan/Sambo Group for 2011, at the Ritz Carlton Hotel,
> Central Park , New York , said though he wishes to emerge victorious in the
> 2011 Presidential election, he will not toy or play politics with the future
> of Nigerians.
>
> He insisted, his immediate preoccupation right is how to provide Nigerians
> with good leadership in order to bring the country at par with other fast
> growing economies of the world. He added“I will not play politics with the
> development of Nigeria .â€
>
> The President regreted that countries which started the race to economic
> recovery with Nigeria such as Malaysia and Brazil , are living in the jet age
> while Nigeria is still lagging behind.
> The President cited Brazil that has for instance, started manufacturing its
> own war planes while Nigeria could only boast of producing gun powder,
> stressing “this is unacceptable to a country such as Nigeria , after 50 years
> of independence.â€
>
> Jonathan reiterated that he would rather remain focused on his development
> agenda for Nigeria than be controlled by the tenets of politics, and urged
> Nigerians both at home and abroad to join hands with his government in the
> task of nation-building which the administration is currently saddled with. He
> said there were emerging facts on daily basis that the Nigerian economy is on
> the path of steady recovery.
>
> The President who was delighted to see one of his former colleagues at the
> Niger-Delta Development Commission (NDDC) but now resident in the US, narrated
> how he would always insists that the right thing be done at all times no
> matter whose ox is gored, adding that nobody including himself could have
> believed that one day he would become a politician.
>
> President Jonathan said Nigeria ’s greatness is always on his mind and
> expressed optimism that one day Nigerian shall be great like other developed
> countries of the world even as he urged Nigerians in Diaspora to always strive
> to do what is right before the laws of their host countries.
>
> According to him, Nigerians living abroad should not be in a hurry to return
> home, except those that don’t have genuine businesses. He said that great
> countries of the world today have their nationals spread around the rest of
> the world, “we we want our people to be everywhere because we have the human
> resources to do well anywhere we are.â€
>
> http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/sept/27/national-27-09-2010-004.htm
>
>
> vin......///
> yesterdays thoughts are today's news
> will keep blowing while relaxed.....they are listening
>
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