My Brother John Ebohon:
Is this not a perfect illustration of the appalling habit of some Naijas who like to create DISTRACTIONS during discussions, by conjuring up imaginary scenarios that don’t really add value to the issues on ground; it is sometimes called SOPHISTRY! You are presenting arguments that touch on issues but they don’t really add value to the object of our discussion.
What else is wanton sophistry, when I am addressing an issue on ground and there is no basis for why I should not address that issue, but you are asking me where I was when another issue (tenuously connected to the present) was on? Of course I could have been anywhere or doing millions of other things; I could even have been a member of a political party that challenged Gov Adams; however, I am reviewing Gov Oshiomhole’s service now and the FACTS surrounding the stones being hauled at him by some of you; and I am taking a position on it! What is wrong with that? How does my valid stance and call on the issues on the basis of available FACTS taint their validity or applicability? Did I have to be Gov Adams’ campaign manager to have the authority and judgment or bias to assess things around him now on the basis of irrefutable FACTS? You could as well tell all those who did not advocate Nigerian Independence not to root for her as a nation now. My Brother John, you don’t have anything useful to say here; let’s just agree and MOVE ON!
On your suggestion that I am a JJC on Gov Adams’ issues, I will advise you to research the egroups’ archives and you will find that apart from the comments we have made about Gov Adams during his tenure as NLC President and successful mobilization of Nigerian workers against Govt’s (including Obasanjo’s) excesses and insensitivity to society and people, I have been following his candidacy for Governorship since 2006. In fact, Gov Adams was a Speaker at my Home Group’s event on Dec 25, 2006 at Agenebode. I have often quoted his governing philosophy I learnt at the event in my egroups’ contribution that “the purpose of govt is welfare of the people and advancement of society”! Check the RECORDS! You will find that my commentaries on Gov Adams pre-date the 2010 AWC (Afenmai World Congress) in Atlanta!
Again, I really wonder why you are all over the place once Gov Adams’ issue comes up; you may recollect that you actually jumped on me on the present issue because I responded to Brother eRG that while he has every right to criticize Gov Adams, he (eRG) should QUIT calling the Gov “a pick pocket, and a tailor mending okrika clothing etc etc ,”, describing the poor guy as an uneducated man who does not know the value of education. It is both a distraction and uncalled for. HABA! Some of you are truly something else if you don’t have the courage to respond to such insolence, and affront for whatever biases you harbor.
Talking about “where he come”, I have observed that some of you have been trying to tilt or drastically shift this discussion to Afenmai versus other non-Afenmai Edo thing; I won’t fall for that BAIT! There are sufficient FACTS on this issue that we don’t need to further SPLIT Edo into Dialects and families to explain why one person is working with bare FACTS and some others are petty politicking (PP)! It is clear that some of you are engaging in PP; the good thing is that eRG does not deny his PP as the driver for his negative disposition to Gov Oshimhole; however, the obfuscation and “courageless” (I didn’t say Cowardly) tactics by some of you are the real problems because they are divisive and unprogressive. I hope you get my point. Have a nice Thanksgiving and take care. JUI
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: [NaijaPolitics] RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
JUI
Where were you when the courage was really needed to put straight the vitriolic trash-talk showered on Oshiomhole during the election by those who supported Osunbor purely on ethnic grounds. That is when the courage was needed, and where were you? Now the soup is done and time to do the eating and the likes of you are emerging from the shadows and wood works to become the 'defender of the faith'. Please call the debate from edo-nation archive and you will the battle fought and won. You only assume the role you are now playing after the last Afenmai World Congress and ever since, any comment about Oshiomhole's government you will evaluate as on attack motivated by ethnicity. We went through this nonsense during the short-term Osunbor was in office where some of us did not care how Osunbor became the Governor of the State but that derives from their ethnic stock was the overriding priority for them. It is rather unfortunate that you have continued along this line.
Look at what you wrote : Ya’Usam and I are not derived from the same embryonic clone or stem cell! We have Only found a common ground on the need to encourage, constructively criticize but not to wantonly bad-mouth a leader who is performing and delivering the dividends of democracy to society and citizens. It does not matter whether the leader is Hausa, Kanuri, Bini, Esan, Egba, Ijaw, Efik, Nupe or Afenmai! Is there anything wrong with that? This is our position on Oshiomhole. JUI, what brought about this kind of comment from you? Why bother add Hausa Kanuri, Efik and the rest? You talk about courage and where is your courage to say what you truly meat to say, and since you lacked the courage to do so, let me write it for you - It does not matter whether the leader is Afenmai! Is there anything wrong with that? I have always known that your motivations have nothing to do with supporting a leader who is delivering the dividend of democracy and I did ask you once your exact motivations just as I posed the same question to Ya Usman and PK in the past. You have just admitted, by this statement, the basis upon which you and Ya Usman as well as others of your ilk evaluate comments on Oshiomhole, which is why I rightly grouped you both as of the same ilk in my earlier posting.
It is patently clear now why you become emotional and throw caution to the wind why you often retaliate rather than respond to comments on Oshiomhole and his administrations. By so doing, you become irrational and irascible. Who told you anything is wrong with Oshomhole, as an Afenmai, being the leader of Edo State? Did the Afenmais make Oshiomhole the Governor of Edo State? Oshiomhole received votes from all corners of State, which is why the people lasted in their overwhelming support for him. So, the women who stripped bare to demonstrate the election and matched the street of Benin City travelled down from Afenmai area of Edo State.
My sincere hope and prayer is that Oshiomhole does not surround himself with people of your mentality.
OJ
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Subject: [NaijaPolitics] RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
John Ebohon,
It was clear that you lacked the COURAGE to tell eRG that he should QUIT talking trash to Gov Adams, even as you knew the FACTS about his (Adams’) education and leadership that your Brother eRG was tarnishing. But I don’t shy away from a venerable responsibility to a Brother; So I gave eRG the BARE FACTS about Gov Oshiomhole’s performance and advised him to QUIT the trash-talk, even as he reserves his rights to criticize the Gov! This is the short story about this issue that you JUMPED into without doing your homework, even as eRG appears to have seen my point by his silence on it!
Check the archives on these egroups as well and you will find that I have directed some criticisms to Gov Adams in the past; so you are misrepresenting me by sugge sting in the remotest sense that I am saying Gov Adams should not be criticized; you talk about being duplicitous but I am convinced that you could hear yourself being disingenuous by making such a statement publicly, knowing that the FACTS of this discussing don’t support that accusation.
As I said earlier, there should be nothing wrong with people reacting in different forms to question how the Gov can arbitrarily hike school fees from N15,000 to the said N60,000; what are the circumstances if it is true? Besides, is it that easy for a Gov to come into a School and say “I Raise Your Fees”? Is it a dictatorship Govt? These are legitimate criticisms. But for Brother eRG to leave the issues associated with the subject matter and indulge in trash talk, bad-mouthing the Gov as " a pick pocket, and a tailor mending okrika clothing etc etc is an affront, and people like you lacking the courage to call a spade a space on the issue share in the dastardly deed! That is the POINT! Take care. JUI
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Subject: Edo-ciao RE: [NaijaPolitics] RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
JUI,
So, because Oshiomhole held the position he held and went to Ratcliff College Oxford is enough for him not to be criticised? If you are the victim of name calling, which you detest, means you have to indulge in the same habit and this is what it is to you not to& nbsp;turn the other cheek? Is this not the typical excuse often given for the corruption and excesses that have engulfed our nation that in as much as they may hate corruption but since others are doing it, they similarly indulge in the same rent seeking behaviour. This simply means that you do not hate name calling but have simply not had the opportunity to indulge in it, and as soon as tempted, you took the bait. This is why you are found conceiting and duplicitous by so many in the various fora that you belong.
You can robe yourself in Oshiomhole's supporters' clothe but only a fool will see you as such. as you have nothing substantive to offer other than to clap and cheer every move made by this government no matter what the effects. Not everyone is as brainless to believe that Oshi omhole is a pick pocket and a tailor mending okrika etc etc. It should not take your misplaced and sycophantic interventions and mannerism to dispel assertions such as those of ERG.
OJ
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Subject: [NaijaPolitics] RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
John Ebohon:
Impartial Readers can see clearly from your warped and incoherent responses below why Ya'Usman could have described you as follows: "You must be thinking through your noses and forgetting the position of your brains in your anatomy."....Unquote Ya'Usman. I have NOTHING else to add than to say it is irrational and grossly piti ful that an Edo mind should wallow in self contradition and convoluted thought processes like you are doing, making you to indict a victim of name-calling because the victim refused to turn the other cheek; that the known political attachment of eRG to PDP should not be a basis for questioning his relentless innuendoes and petty politicking against Gov Adams; how John Ebohon can be playing an attack dog proxy for eRG and at the same time asking JUI to question his (eRG's) motives for attacking Gov Adams who is performing for Edo State and Nigeria, while he (eRG) has been silent about Igbinedion's ineptitude, debauchery and misrule of Edo land for 8 good years; how John Ebohon sleeps at nights when he knew that Gov Adams "Oshiomhole was the President of the International Labour Organisation, he went to Ratcliff College Oxford, he lead for many years the Nigerian labour organisat ion etc etc" and has made a remarkable difference in governing Edo State for just 2 years, while allowing eRG to misrepresent and bad-mouth the Gov as " a pick pocket, and a tailor mending okrika clothing etc etc ". Where is your sense of fairness and human justice?
My Brother John, Edos that I know, who sowed the seeds of my ancestry dont behave like you are doing; you MUST MEND YOUR WAYS and live a decent and upfront life the Edos are known for! That is a Brotherly Advice. My sole interest in all of these is to set the records straight with the BARE FACTS, which scare some of you greatly; but I cant help myself; it is either we work with the FACTA and draw our conclusions and positions on the issues from them in discussing community issues or we just let sleeping dog lie quietly! Take care. JUI
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Subject: RE: Edo-ciao RE: : Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
JUI,
You do not seem to have understood the point made in my response to you. Firstly, did ERG tell you that his views and assessment of Oshiomhole is based upon his regards for Igbinadion? Secondly, where have you been all these while, especially during the election campaign of Oshiomhole? The reason for this is the fact that the statement made by ERG has been rehearsed many of those that supported Osunbor at the time and these views were rebutted with rational and robust arguments. You need to ask ERG what Governor Oshiomhole has done to him that shaped his view on the man, which he is entitled just as you are entitled to your views on Igbinadion and others. If ERG believes Oshiomhole is a pick pocket, and a tailor mending okrika clothing etc etc and you have facts and figures to counter these attacks would it not have been wise to dish them out rather than engage him in the very act you are condemning? Oshiomhole was the President of the International Labour Organisation, he went to Ratcliff College Oxford, he lead for many years the Nigerian labour organisation etc etc? Does it mean that Oshiomhole can do whatever he pleases no matter how bizarre because Lucky Igbinadion did not perform?
The bit about Ya Usman says it all about you. He is of your ilk because he also sees nothing wrong in Oshiomhole or what he does no matter what – this is the comparison that I seek to draw. Other than that, Ya Usman is far more articulate on issues that you have ever been. Look at your thought process below – you only condescended to the level you abhorred bec ause someone else indulged in it? You decided to resort to name calling because another person called you names even though you are in condemnation of such behaviours. It is on occasions such as this that you show and demonstrate the extent that you truly hate name calling. Those “reasonable people” that contacted you to tell that they saw your point seeing chasing a mad man, I would not define as reasonable at all. If indeed they are reasonable, they would known that there is no difference between a mad man and the pursuer. So they told you they saw your point doing what you have come out openly to engage in an activity that you have roundly condemned. If there is anyone looking for ”straws to hang on when they look bare” there is no better example. JUI, the journalist that called Nixon a crook did he do so before or after the Watergate scandal was unearthed? How did the Watergate scandal unfold? Also, do you think ERG finds Oshiomhole favourab le to him that he holds the views held of Oshiomhole? I have found that on the numerous occasions you have come out to defend Oshiomhole against political attacks you have always ended up damaging the man more than the people attacking him.
OJ
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Subject: Edo-ciao RE: : Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
John Ebohon:
I will respond to your questions directly as follows:
1. The difference between my choice of words for Igbinedion and that of ERG for Oshiomhole is that first, history will cerify that former Gov Igbinedion did NOTHING and achieved Nothing for Edo State during his 2-term trnure as Gov; however, the news of Gov Oshiomhole's achieve's achievement is on the lips and pages of Edos and Nigerians daily; that is a FACT. Second, the evidence for former Gov Igbinedion's looting of Edo treasury is there in the court of crimainal justice, having been convicted for stealing Edo funds; however, eRG's name-calling and baseless accusation that Gov Adams is a pick-pocket is tantamount to gratuitous innuendoes that have no basis in reality. That is also a FACT!
2. I have realized that some of you look for straws to hang on when you lack the bare FACTs to substantiate your biases and adventures in petty politicking that take soicety and people nowhere; how else would I explain your allusion to Wilson Iguade's uninformed comment about my response in-kind to a person who had called me names; obviously, guade did not read the genesis of the thread to appreciate the context of my reaction; he just saw my response and jumped into the conclusion that "JUI who frowns against name-calling is calling somebody names"; however, when I produced a sequential and chronological development of the issues, he gave up; and reasonable people contacted me to say they saw my point. So if you were an unbiased reader, you would have done the same thing other reasonable people did, check my response to Iguade and save yourself o f this out-of-point remarks you are making here now.
3. On Ya'Usman's comment, again I say your biased approach to issues appeared to have dimmed your sensibilities not to appreciate the fact that, first, I did not follow the thread on Uzamere's visit to our Royal Father, because I was not interested in it from the headlines; the records would show that I did not comment on it; second, Ya'Usam and I dont agree on all the issues and the archives of these egroups will verify that; and third, to say that Ya'Usman is of my "ilk", whatever you mean by that, is condescending and unfortunate because I have NEVER said anything out of place against our Edo tradition or any other tradition, come to talk of our Revered Royal Father and Oba; in fact, I even cautioned Ya'Usman last week or during the weekend when I felt he was unruly for telling the Pope to shut up b ecause of what the Pope said about condon use to control HIV transmission. So what are the basis for your unrestrained statement?
4. On the wanton negative reactions of eRG toward anything about Gov Adams, it is interesting that you are calling me naive when you chose to mix apples and oranges by comparing eRG's regular bad-mouthing of Gov Adams (whether he performs or not) to Americans calling a President who master-minded the Watergate scandal a crook or how some Iraqis see and react to American Presidents; or how eggs, tomatoes etc have been thrown at politicians and leaders for policies the perpetrators consider as unfavorable to them. My Question to you is: what has Gov Adams done to eRG that makes the Gov deserve to be called a pick-pocket, a bloody tailor mending Okrika clothings, a nongraduate who does not appreciate a University education or a tragedy? Let's hear!
5. Finally, it appears you SEIZED this opportunity to go all over the place around issues that are or are not connected to the subject-matter but I will just IGNORE them as they are merely fishing and finger-pointing; but to just mention few, you alluded to how people like JUI messed up Igbinedion because you assume the guy has no mind of his own; how some of the people who messed Igbinedion up are around Gov Adams now, as if you dont know that there people popularly called AGIP (Any Govt In Power), who as citizens would pledge to serve anybody; and that ULTIMAELY, regardless of who is around a leader, the onus lies on the leader to decide what to do with his/her duties and services to society, and have his/her legac y tied with it, as we have done with Ogbemudia and his lofty legacy; as we have been doing with Lucky Igbinedion and his ineptitude; and as we will do with Adams Oshilmhole and the resounding successes he is recording. These are the FACTS of public life my Brother John! Take care. JUI
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Subject: RE: Edo-ciao RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
JUI,
What is the difference between you and the woman so vividly described by the veteran journalist Abarti? In particular, what is the difference between your choice of words for Igbinadion and that of ERG for Oshiomhole? What is civilised and decorous about your diatribe? You were reminded here just few days ago about your duplicitous nature and take on matters in that you accuse others of exactly the attitude you have come to perfect and represent.
Look at the statement of one of your ilk - Ya Usman following the visit of Senator Uzamere to the Palace that the institution of the monarchy will become a game if dragged into politics, and for which he was roundly educated. Why did you not feed this veiled attack on the Palace through your supposed civilised and decorous sieve?
If anything is nauseating, it is your unbounded sycophancy and naivety. You are naive in that a seasoned commentator would have humourised and reduced ERG's statement to a political satire. ERG can describe Oshiomhole the way he likes after all a journalist stood up and called an American President a crook. Someone threw shoes at an American President, which is considered the highest insult in the Arab world. Eggs, tomatoes, water, and custard have been thrown at politicians and indeed, Igbinadion was bombarded with pure water and stones at Ogbemudia stadium, and the world did not come to an end.
Perhaps Igbinadion would have performed better had he not surround him self with cheerleaders like you. Look the ridiculous suggestion that people should call home, do a little research, identify when an event took place and who were present before reacting to a newspaper article that they themselves have no problems commenting on!
At the same breadth, the registrar and the vice-Chancellor of AAU are recommended for a sack based on what was read from the said article that have been deemed inaccurate. One wonders if they called home to find out the exact AAU student population, and who did they talk to? Anyone that has worked in the education sector knows how difficult it could be tracking students. Even at the micro or course level, you find that a class list may contain names of stu dents that are not present while there are students present but not on the list because of the different entry levels and exit routes, which makes student number to vary from time to time. In a country where you can be attending university and yet get disqualified after three or four years of study for not "passing clearing" what ever that means.
JUI, you keep referring to Lucky Igbinadion's regime at the instance of any criticisms of Oshiomhole but the very 'who was who' in Igbinadion administration are now in ACN and signs of Igbinadion early years in government are observable in Oshiohole's administration. Igbinadion embarked upon two major 'white elephant projects' the Ogba 'bullet proof' housin g scheme and the dredging of Ikpoba river to pave way to a tourism resort where billions of Naira raised from the capital market were allegedly spent. There were many like you who ran naked on the streets of North America and Europe to celebrate these projects while those who dared question the wisdom of the projects were vilified and deemed the 'enemies within' - today these projects are abandoned and are now distant memories.
When Osunbor came along, he initiated his own programme, example of which was Akpakpava - putting bollards on the middle of the road and few flower pots, which cost hundreds of millions. Just as you are doing, the non-performed Igbinadion and the performing Osunbor was a constant theme of discussion. Even your current behaviour was tamed in comparison to what we witnessed on the various edo-fora. Even failed ex-local government chairmen became political pundits while many became cheerleaders. Indeed, some highly respected individuals became commissioners without portfolios or political advisers and compromised themselves in the process. Through out they pretended to be championing the cause of Edos and today, they are silent and waiting for another opportunity to reinvent themselves.
My regards,
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OJ
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Subject: Edo-ciao RE: Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimho le OverTuition Fees Hike
""" Haba! Na im fault? No be una say una want pick-pocket as governor? After all he never went to a university, only a bloody tailor mending okirika clothings. A so-called progressive labour leader imposing taxes on educational infrastructure and hiking tuition fees for schools he did not build. What a tragedy!""Unquote Erg!
Brother eRG, yours is a nauseating and disgusting case of wanton insolence, and unnecessary DISTRACTION from a subject-matter! What has all the disparaging and condescending names you called Gov Oshiomhole got to do with questioning the Gov's reasons, motive and objective for hiking the fees, or the visionary leadership and superior governance the Gov has rendered to Edo State, which is a surely refreshing departure from the "do-thing, endless looting and ineptitude of your PDP Lucky Igbenedion regime"? Frankly, you c ould use some civilized and decorous restraint in your characterization of Gov Adams; you are neither the only Edo watching Gov Adams, nor the smartest Edo to evaluate his worth and effectiveness. The OVERWHELMING AGREEMENT among Edos and Nigerians in general is that Gov Adams has done is and is doing an EXCELLENT job of governance in Edo State! So what is your beef with good governance that is needed in all areas of Nigeria?
Regardless of the circumstances surrounding the out-of-character school fees hikes being attributed to Gov Adams, a known and avowed advocate of Education, a more reasonable approach to this news is to QUESTION the Gov's reasons, motives and objectives. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that approach from any stakeholder, citizen or even interested observers. But to rain abuses and gutter language on a known social advocate and demonstrated performer, is clearly to surrender to a trendy reality from some of you on these egroups, whose obse ssion is just to maintain your guerrilla attacks on Gov Adams, waiting for any silly, unfounded and even unreasonable reasons to discharge your venoms on him. It is unreasonable, condescending, gratuitous and ILL-ADVISED. Take care. JUI
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Subject: Re: [edo-nationality] RE: Edo-ciao Re:Varsity Students Stone EdoGov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
Thanks Itohan for sharing. Can you please tell us if this N60000 is for a year or per term?
Also, was it the Governor that disbanded the SUG or the VC?
I was made to understand that he was booed but n ot stoned and was later given the opportunity to address why the increase. The conflicting student numbers from both the VC and the bursar is enough to attract dismissal of both officers. The Governor should find out the exact number of student and dismiss which of these officers provided a wrong information.
Ben
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Subject: Re: [edo-nationality] RE: Edo-ciao Re:Varsity Students Stone Edo
Gov. Oshimhole OverTuition Fees Hike
I was at the school last week and was reliably informed by some students that the governor was actually at their school ,he was stoned and booed.He blamed the Vice principal for not knowin g the total number of student in the school as the bursar gave a different number from what the VC gave to him and he therefore increased the school fees of all the students from N15000 previously paid per student to N60000.He also disbanded the SUG so there was no opposition to his increase!Itohan Iyoha
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From: Benson Osawe <benosawe@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:47:31 +0000
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Subject: [edo-nationality] RE: Edo-ciao Re:Varsity Students Stone Edo Gov. Oshimhole Over Tuition Fees Hike
ERG,
Before you start rejoicing, can you please verify the source of what has been written? Please call home or do a little research to show that this actually took place. When did this happen and who was present at this time? Was any arrest made? Did anyone interview the student union President to find out why they are protesting? Did the students make any representation before now to ask about the increase of tuition fees?
There is simply no reason to jump into conclusion but Dr Ebohon has also raised an important point.
Thanks
Ben
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From: ebohon@dmu.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:59:41 +0000
Subject: RE: Edo-ciao Re:Varsity Students Stone Edo Gov. Oshimhole Over Tuition Fees Hike
ERG,
The rise in tuition fees is inevitable and the students should rather concentrate on the direction to which the money goes. If the money is ploughed back into the University and services improves, the better it is for the students, staff, and Edo State. What the Edo State government should have done was to clearly map out where the money is going and carry the student body along. The action of the students must have been motivated by not knowing where the money will be spent. AAU and other tertiary institutions in the state require huge sums for capital infrastructure and services and s ome of this amount must come in fees.
My regards,
OJ
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Subject: Edo-ciao Re:Varsity Students Stone Edo Gov. Oshimhole Over Tuition Fees Hike
Haba! Na im fault? No be una say una want pick-pocket as governor?
After all he never went to a university, only a bloody tailor mending okirika clothings. A so-called progressive labour leader imposing taxes on educational infrastructure and hiking tuition fees for schools he did not build.
What a tragedy!
eRG
"God gives, Man hoards and Satan steals" - eRG's Father
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From: ayekotoonola <ayekotoonola@yahoo.com>
To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 14:09:06
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Varsity Students Stone Edo Gov. Oshimhole Over Tuition Fees Hike
Varsity Students Stone Edo Gov. Oshimhole Over Tuition Fees Hike
Governor of Edo State, Comrade Adams Alliyu Oshimhole, will not forget in a hurry, his in the hands of students of Ambrose Alli University, Ekpoma in Benin City, who hauled him stones and called him unprintable names over his government's hike in tuition fees. The event which occurred at Edo State Institute of Management an Technology, gave the governor's security men an uphill task as they battled to control the angry students who were protesting the increase in their school fees.
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