Monday, November 29, 2010

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Teachable moment for Yinka Odumakin Re:President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - PastorTunde Bakare Confirms

"This particular outcome is another bitter lesson, that when you deal with power in Nigeria - in fact any power in the world - that you have to be TRANSPARENT, otherwise someone there will try to BLACKMAIL you, CRUSH you.  There is ABSOLUTELY no reason why SNG should visit Aso Rock without the world knowing about it either BEFORE the meeting, or particularly AFTER the meeting". - Mr Bolaji Aluko

Our people preaches Democracy without appreciating that one of the essential tenets of DEMOCRACY is TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY and the role of the PRESS in sustaining same....

So Yinka, If Pastor Tunde Bakare, and your group were invited to see Jonathan in a meeting billed as a way of reviewing his performance so far in office, why was the Press not alerted as to this meeting, why were journalists not invited to cover the meeting???

While I am in no way questioning your honesty and integrity, why was the $50,000 accepted at all only to be returned later?
 
Daniel Elombah
Publisher: www.elombah.com
(A Nigerian Perspective on world affairs)
 


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Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [OmoOdua] Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [NaijaElections] Re:President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - PastorTunde Bakare Confirms

 
 
Yinka:
 
My quick responses below:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:36 AM, yinka odumakin <yod2011@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

Prof:
Sorry about the mischief stuff.

 
Apologies accepted.

But honestly I believe you could call me up if you had any grey area and I would explain to you.

 
OS called you.  I was aware of his call(s).  I did not believe that 1000 people should be calling you on this particular matter.
 
In fact, when I first read the money issue, I thought it was the account of an earlier occasion, because I could SWEAR that I heard a similar encounter involving the SNG BEFORE now, when money was ALSO returned after being returned.  Is that NOT correct?
 
I identify with Ola Kassim's query:  if someone knows that I am VIRULENTLY against accepting money, and I have VIRULENTLY refused it a first time or a recent time, it is UNLIKELY that he would offer it a second time.
 
So if money had been offered before - if my recollection is right - it is QUITE POSSIBLE that someone thought that the first offer was taken, and that he was offering it a second time in an acceptable manner, just that this time, things went awry.
 
If I had called, that is what I would have asked to be clarified, whether this offer/rejection was the first, second or third time, etc.
 

Jesus said we should let our yes be yes and our no be no.There is nothing to misunderstand in yes and no.
The Yoruba say that the conversation with a bloated scrotum is in four sentences:1,your scrotum is bloated 2.No it is not 3.Where is it ? 4.Here it is.
Money was offered to us which we returned and which we were not going to even make any issue of until the moles in GEJ camp went to work.

 
I do not know the motive behind the donation - or bribe - but my first inclination is to consider it improper.  I believe that you also considered it improper, hence your returning it.  But you did well NOT to make a fuss of it, so that you do not misrepresent the matter.
 
Where you did wrong, in my mind, is NOT reporting the event AT ALL.  There may be certain things said OFF THE RECORD - and every body should know that - but SNG cannot and must not meet the President of Nigeria, and have EVERY SINGLE DISCUSSION to be off-record!  This was not brother-to-brother talking, for crying out loud!
 
This particular outcome is another bitter lesson, that when you deal with power in Nigeria - in fact any power in the world - that you have to be TRANSPARENT, otherwise someone there will try to BLACKMAIL you, CRUSH you.  There is ABSOLUTELY no reason why SNG should visit Aso Rock without the world knowing about it either BEFORE the meeting, or particularly AFTER the meeting.
 
When Pastor Bakare had come out in full support of Buhari, even if he had CLARIFIED that that was HIS POSITION, and not SNG's position, he should know that he could easily be the target of blackmail by one or more of GEJ's supporters if he went into any secret discussion with President GEJ - a potential opponent of Buhari.  That is simple logic.
 
I read that the meeting ended at 12 midnight or thereabout - fair enough - but was the unholy hour of the press meeting of yore with IBB (leaving at 2 am) not also an issue?  There could no doubt be a reason to end a meeting at 12 midnight, but if it is at Aso Rock, the more reason why you BETTER tell the world, otherwise someone will say that it was under cover of darkness.
 

You have access to OS and he would tell you the party that leaked the whole encounter.

 
 
You got that one right.  We bounce ideas off each other.  He sometimes knows more than I know - and he shares - and I sometimes know more than he knows - and I share.  Every circumstance is different.
 

I can overlook darts from the enemies but the arrows of friends are hurtful.

 
That presumes that they are arrows or darts that I was throwing!  When I ask for deposition from you, Bakare or, Sowore, I ask for statements or re-statements of truth from friends.  With nothing to hide, it should not be difficult to state or re-state them.  If you have already made all the statements that you wish to make, say so, and I would take those as your final depositions, until you say otherwise.

Enough said!

 
"Nuff said too - for now.
 

Yinka.


"After going around and around and around the same old mountain,may be it's time to finish the job.May be it's time to claim the promise.I dont know about you,but im tired of going around and around and around the mountain"-Rapheal Warnock"-

 
Bolaji Aluko
Still SAM though! :-)
 
 
 
From: Mobolaji ALUKO <alukome@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:30:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [NaijaElections] Re: President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - Pastor Tunde Bakare Confirms

 

 
Yinka Odumakin:
 
So you are calling me now a Senior Advocate of Mischief (SAM) because I ask a few questions of this rather unfortunate episode?
 
Wonders will never cease!
 
Here you are, without ANY solicitation from SNG, I single-handedly urged the SNG through yourself to visit the United States - because I believe and still believe in what the SNG is for and is doing.  You may have been planning a meeting to the US beforehand, but I knew nothing about that.  
 
After several emails and phone calls between myself, you and Pastor Bakare, you accepted to come, and I believe that you had a successful outing from November 2-5, meeting with the Ambassador, Nigerians at a town hall meeting and at a teleconference, and a talk at the Johns Hopkins international studies center.  In addition to a number of meals that we had together, I must have spent as much as 20 hours with the three of you (Yinka and the Pastor and his wife) as well as two other pastors resident here in the US during that three-day period.
 
I came away impressed at your joint sincerity - in addition to some other impressions about what was going on in the country and about some people.
 
As a result of your recent visit, I cannot plead that I am not somehow involved with the SNG - with NDERG (which I coordinate) and NPLF publicly indicating that they were hosts of the SNG trip.
 
The surprise that I expressed at the news of the SNG meeting at Aso Rock within the past few days has NOTHING to do with the money, because when I expressed that surprise, I had NO IDEA that monies had changed hands, ABSOLUTELY none.  Part of the impression that I formed during your visit was that the SNG was DONE with Aso Rock - but that obviously may have been wrong on my part.
 
And now this money issue.
 
When I ask for depositions from 7 people, it is not because I doubt your story or that of Pastor Bakare - or of Sowore for that matter - but that there needs to open disclosure.  Deposition does not mean doubt, just that each party should lay their stories on the table, for the world to know, so that inconsistencies can be ironed out.
 
Clearly an SNG delegation comprising at least yourself and Pastor Bakare visited the President at Aso Villa - but the news of the visit was out UNTIL the money issue was included in the reportage. If the "donation" -  or "bribe"  as some people now call it - was made under wraps, secretly, furtively, then it was wrong to make it.  It was proper NOT to take, and PROPER not to make a fuss about it since it was NOT offered as a bribe by the giver.
 
But when there is some UNCERTAINTY as to whether the donation - or bribe - was accepted PERMANENTLY or not - or that even that MORE MONEY was asked for, etc. - then that calls for concern and for clarification from all sides.
 
But to be this defensive and call me a Senior Advocate of Mischief when all I asked for was accountability from those I believe the truth is a bit much.
 
I shall leave it at that for now.  It is a sad outcome - not the bribery, but your reaction.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, your reaction.
 
 
 
Bolaji Aluko

 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:01 AM, yinka odumakin <yod2011@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

Alagba Idowu:
The Yoruba say that "eni to sun la n ji,a o ki n ji eni to n pi roro"(you wake a sleeping man not the one feigning sleep).
Prof is being mischievous and it is galling!
Why would he need deposition from Sowore for instance?
Well,we will summit ourselves even for inquisition!

Yinka.
Shaking his head as the Senior Advocate of Mischief (SAM) prepares for the trial.

"After going around and around and around the same old mountain,may be it's time to finish the job.May be it's time to claim the promise.I dont know about you,but im tired of going around and around and around the mountain"-Rapheal Warnock"-

From: idowu <idowubobo@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:54:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [NaijaElections] Re: President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - Pastor Tunde Bakare Confirms

 

Who is going to do deposition and why is deposition needed.
 
Pastor Bakare said his team was given $50,000 someone an eye witness called Saharareporter and told him the whole story. Tony Uranta coroborated the visit. Douglas Orubebe confirmed they received the money. If you think the SNG are so stupid not to document their call and conversation with Douglas Orubebe, then tell GEJ to continue to press the issue.
 
You are yet to request the deposition of Atiku and $40 million money laundering, you are requesting the deposition of a group of honorable Nigerians who honored the invitation of their president and was tempted with the sum of $50,000 which they honorably rejected.
 
If they rejected the money outrightly at the point of offer, some of you will be doubting that such a thing ever happened and also would have been saying, why didn't they collect the money as evidence and then return it.
 
If the FBI did not allow Jefferson to collect Atiku's money, there would be no evidence.
 
Pronto!!!


Idowu
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson


"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel


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Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [NaijaElections] Re: President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - Pastor Tunde Bakare Confirms

 

 
 
Dominic:
 
All I can say is that we need depositions from seven persons - Bakare,Odumakin, Orubebe, Douglas, Uranta, Jonathan and Sowore - what did they know and when did they know it - and why!! :-)
 
No ands, ifs or buts.....
 
And there you have it.
 
 
 
Bolaji Aluko

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Dominic Ogbonna <summadom@gmail.com> wrote:
 

"I don't like all of this one bit, hence my hesitancy when I first heard the news of the SNG visit to Aso Villa." -Bolaji Aluko


Bolaji:
The thing taya person, and it is hard to comment on this issue without insinuating the wrong impression or straining alliances that I personally would not really like to strain. Fact of the matter is: no matter how you look at it, nobody -NONE OF THE PARTIES- come out of this story looking too good.

(a.) Why the clandestine visit to Aso Rock in the first case? Sure, money may have been rejected, but money is NOT the only thing with which a man can be bribed. People can also be enticed with sex, or power, or influence -something IBB did extremely well.

So are some folks in the SNG using the platform to shop for something other than money? Are some of he folks shopping for political influence?

You will remember the last SNG scandal -when it was alleged that some folks were using the SNG to negotiate political positions. That accusation was not exactly denied, merely rubbished and superciliously dismissed. We refused to join that conversation then, because you do not chase mice while your house is burning.

But is the pattern is beginning to add up ?


(a.) You will notice that after Jonathan became President, it appeared he had no further use for the SNG. And once that happened, SNG itself became critical of the president, and some of its people started supporting other candidates. The Chicken and the egg, which one produced the other ??

Did SNG switch sides because, Jonathan did not deal?
Or did Jonathan refuse to deal because, the SNG switched sides?

You can't help wondering.

(b.) And now, out of the blue, we hear that SNG met with Jonathan! And before the story broke out, some SNG folks had in fact almost started sounding pro-Jonathan again, to my own utter bewilderment I must confess -until I read the story on Saturday.

(c.) So who broke the story to SaharaReporters anyway? Was the story deliberately orchestrated by the SNG, and if so why? Did the story sneak out inspite of the SNG officialdom, and if so why?  Something does not compute.

(d.) And then there is the money: Why was the cheque accepted in the first place?  If someone gives you a bribe, and you don't want it, normally you would say "thanks, but no thanks", abi? "

So why was the money taken home in the same instance?  Did someone want to get a photograph? And they quickily thought of it as soon as the money was offered?

Or was the "transport money" offered to one SNG member, who took it home, before other righteous delegates persuaded him to return it? 

Was the money offered in the presence  of all of the SNG delegates? And why did Orurube follow them all the way back to the hotel?

We have to ask because, the explanation that was given - that the SNG took the money because, it 'didn't want to create a scene'  - makes absolutely no sense.

Alagba Yinka, you must please not take this personally. I  have nothing but respect and admiration for your person. And no sir, I am NOT insinuating that some of the folks we respect might have initially considered taking the money. But this story does not compute. Not completely.

And now that the story is out, and both Jonathan's and SNG's camps are openly calling each other liars,  we need FULL TRANSPARENCY and disclosure. Otherwise, at the back of their minds, people will always wonder ....


Dominic,


On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Mobolaji ALUKO <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 
 
Dear All:
 
 
$50,000 is a lot of dough  -  and I don't like all of this talk one bit!
 
Someone either offered money or did not offer money.  Someone either took money or did not take money.  Someone either returned money or did not return money.  Someone either took the returned money or did not take the returned money. 
 
You cannot be pregnant and not pregnant at the same time.
 
Since you and I were not there at this (in)auspicious meeting, how did anybody know what or whether money was offered or not?  Who knew what, and when did they know it?  Who wants to rubbish who?  The SNG, President Jonathan or Team Jonathan -  who are the rubbished and/or the rubbishers?
 
Therefore, we must take (further sworn?) depositions from:
 
 
2.  Mr. Yinka Odumakin http://www.facebook.com/yinka.odumakin1 
 
 
 
5.  Mr. Oronto Douglas http://www.facebook.com/orontolaw 
 
6.  President Goodluck Jonathan himself  http://www.facebook.com/jonathangoodluck 
 
 
to get to the bottom of it all.
 
And there you have it.  I don't like all of this one bit, hence my hesitancy when I first heard the news of the SNG visit to Aso Villa.

 
Bolaji Aluko
Shaking his head
And suspending judgment
 
 
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President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - Pastor Tunde Bakare Confirms

Posted: November 29, 2010 - 00:42
Posted by siteadmin
 

Fiery Lagos-based pastor, Tunde Bakare, has confirmed to Saharareporters that President Goodluck Jonathan provided a $50,000 cash bribe to a delegation of the Save Nigeria Group that visited him last Monday, but that the group sent back the money.

Pastor Bakare's confirmation came in the midst of a tepid denial of our earlier report by Tony Uranta, one of Mr. Jonathan's political operatives. Uranta had claimed on his Facebook page yesterday that Saharareporters misrepresented the crux of the meeting between the president and the Pastor Bakare-led delegation.

Specifically, Uranta denied that Jonathan discussed his ambition to run for office with the SNG delegation. He also stated that no money was offered to the SNG team and claimed that, contrary to our earlier report, the Bakare group had not asked him to return the bribe money to Jonathan.

But in a telephone interview with Saharareporters on Sunday evening, Pastor Bakare confirmed that the details of our earlier exclusive report were factual and unimpeachable.

Bakare, who has a reputation for speaking out fearlessly on current political issues, affirmed that the Minister of the Niger Delta, Godsday Orubebe, had offered the SNG delegation the sum of $50,000 on behalf of President Jonathan. The SNG had met with Jonathan to review his performance in office.

In the phone interview, Pastor Bakare stated categorically that his team was indeed offered money after it submitted a position paper on why it was opposed to the president's ambition to be re-elected. He confirmed that the cash was immediately returned to sender through Uranta, shortly after it was presented to the SNG delegation.

The SNG convener told Saharareporters that his team felt terribly embarrassed and offended by the orchestrated attempt by Jonathan and his team to buy the SNG's support through illicit means.

An obviously angry Bakare said, "You can quote me. I don't do deals and I don't lie. Tony [Uranta] could be saving his own face. Tony lied that he didn't collect the money from us. There are living witnesses. Orubebe has confirmed to me that the money was returned. Mr. President is aware through Oronto Douglas that we returned his money through Tony."

Bakare said he, Yinka Odumakin and other SNG officials went to the meeting with Jonathan with a written document that explained why the SNG would not support his candidacy.

"We submitted a document regarding the culture of impunity in which he (Jonathan) continues to swim," he said.

As Saharareporters had exclusively reported, Jonathan sought a meeting with the Save Nigeria Group to discuss his ambition to run for office after it dawned on him that former Vice President Abubakar Atiku, the consensus candidate chosen by the so-called Northern Political Elders Forum, was going to present a stiff political challenge.

A close aide to Mr. Jonathan told Saharareporters that, whilst Atiku is steeped in corruption, the president was also aware that the Atiku group had a dossier on corrupt deals by both Jonathan, his wife and his close associates and advisors, including former President Olusegun Obasanjo.

After Bakare made his presentation and accused Jonathan of having abused the goodwill offered him by Nigerians, the president tried to buy the group's loyalty by giving its officials $50,000 through Orubebe.

An Abuja-based democratic activist told Saharareporters that, by attempting to buy the SNG's support, Mr. Jonathan had "exposed himself to charges of hypocrisy and doing the opposite of what he preaches."

In a speech on Saturday, Mr. Jonathan had urged Nigerians to ignore politicians who seek to win elections by offering money to groups and individuals.

The president gave the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do sermon at the 2010 graduation ceremony of the Senior Executive Course 32 of the National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies (NIPSS) in Kuru, Plateau State. Vice President Namadi Sambo represented the president at the event and read the speech on Jonathan's behalf.

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On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Adebayo Adejuwon <adeadejuwon@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Chief Ogonna:
 
I get your point.
 
But you are putting me in a difficult position. Honestly you are. I am not too sure Pastor Bakare and SNG have anything to gain by embarrassing the president. I sincerey do not think so. And please dont even allow  the idea of SNG extracting a pound of flesh from GEJ cross your mind. Oh no, this will be an unchristian like disposion and I can assure you that nobody in SNG will do that.
 
But, Ogonna, let us look at it this way. If the president men- I mean Orubebe, Oronoto and Tony decides to leak the "gift" to the press, who will believe Pastor Bakare and SNG? Think about it. Maybe such a meeting ought not have attracted any "funding" from the presidency at all.
 
From the report I have read so far, GEJ called the meeting and the agenda was to review GEJs performance so far. What does this tell you? My take is that GEJ reckons with SNG and perhaps, may wish to be given a fair an unbiased assessment of his performance, which, I have reasons to believe, happened.
 
We may not agree on what the larger implication of sending such "gifts" means to the integrity of the two parties. My take is that, some lessons have been learnt and both GEJ and SNG can still collaborate now that the standard is now known.
 
The Orubebe's of this world may just be doing their jobs. And this may just be the way others before them did it. Nothing to worry about. I am sure when next the president host any group, especially, a group whose position on "gifts|" is public knowledge, the conduct of Aso Rock officials will be different.
 
So, Ogonna, it is  not about plotting to bring GEJ down. I do not see it as such.

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Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| President Jonathan Offered Us $50,000 Bribe, But We Returned It - Pastor Tunde Bakare Confirms

 

Mazi Adejuwon,

My argument is that Bakare is now wallowing in 'petiness' with the current brouhaha reported by Sahara which shouldn't have made the  headlines of any respectable 'news organization' EXCEPT for the purpose of polarizing the people for the benefit of those puppetering this 'sick joke'. 

Maybe Bakare is now so 'Rich' off of collecting Tithe money and gift bags from his well and connected friends that he forgets that he ridicules the President, good for him. What is the use of 'harping' around like a Pharisee who must shout when delivering his offering so the people can hear? 

So are you trying to say that those currently 'dictating' the SNG were are behind Sahara reporters because one became public before the other?? Again your ziggmatics fails my intellect-- so you helped save the humble president, now you wish to humilate him to extract your pound of flesh? How christian-like!

O.M.O.

  

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On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Adebayo Adejuwon <adeadejuwon@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

The last time I checked Omoyele Sowore has been running Sharareporters before SNG was born early this year. And if I remember very well, the first national assignment SNG gave itself was to help this chicken hearted man called Jonathan who had been humbled by Turai.
 
What is the logic behind your argument.
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Gen Vin,

Bakare is letting himself to be disabused via SaharaMalReporters ... But of course we know the same 'progressive hypocrites' behind SNG are also financing sahara-- so it makes sense they would use their media front to launder their rotten magic.

O.M.O.



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On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:32 PM, vincent modebelu <vin_modebelu@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm
This story looks crooked coming from sahara.
They met with Jonathan..No money given
They met with Orubebe..money was given

When did orubebe become Jonathan.??

these are two different people Rev bakare.

I know the seal to prove purity and lack of sin in you..being too ambitious.

Take it easy Bakare...You took the monies all the way home..photographed them...then return them to Jonathan or Orubebe ?.


vin......///
        yesterdays thoughts are today's news
will keep blowing while relaxed.....they are listening




 

 









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