Tuesday, March 8, 2011

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

 
 
Dear All:
 
The saddest thing emerging from the Wikileaks expose is why 'bonafide' leaders of a sovereign nation like
Nigeria find it necessary to bare their souls to some lowly US emissaries in Abuja?
 
Abi is Nigeria not a sovereign independent country any more?
 
How much does Nigeria receive in foreign aid from the USA on an annual basis?
 
The Wikileaks affair shows a complete lack of confidence in ourselves as Nigerians and Africans.
Our proud ancestors would be turning in their graves if they knew what we have
done with the self pride that was turned over to us.
 
The only feasible  deduction from Yayale's claim that UMYA surreptiously transfered power
to him when he was incapacitated is that this emblematic of the current mind set of the majority
of Nigerians- the rulers and the ruled alike.
 
Nigeria is a nation of non-conformists.
 
The vast majority of Nigerians do not follow due process as a matter or routine in both their public and personal lives.
They are always looking for the convenient shortcuts!
 
This lack of adherence to the due process is a major factor in the lack of development in Nigeria.
 
Nobody cares about the rules any more. Ever since the days of military rule what Oga says trumps
whatever is in the blue book on procedural matters.
 
Let us begin by attempting to regain our self confidence first and foremost.
There is no need for Nigeria to kowtow to the USA. The USA needs our oil more than Nigeria
needs the USA!
 
Secondly, let us vow to follow the rules no matter whether it favors us or it does not.
When the due process is folowed to the letter it becomes impossoble to divert
billions of naira orth of pension funds into private accounts when starving aged
pensioners are denied of their hard earned entitlements.
 
Where are the departmental auditors in the Nigerian public office?
Did they suddenly become extinct? Why are they not catching these easy to catch
simplistic fraudulent transactions? Or are they just too afraid of losing their
jobs if they refuse to look the other way?
 
Bye,
 
Ola


 
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Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 8:08 pm
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] RE: [NaijaElections] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

 
My Dear Brother Idowu:

"Saddam Hussein, Gadaffi, Hitler and IBB, Abacha are people that lack self confidence in themselves, but when propped up, later became monsters. I pray and hope that is not the case with GEJ."

I say AMEN to your prayer. However, I also want to note that all the tyrants you mentioned were totalitarians or dictators, not democratic presidents. To ensure President GEJ does not become one of those tyrants, let us start from preparing our legislators to learn to legislate based on their people's needs. It is the legislators that have the responsibility to tame the Executive. The Executive can only execute what the law of the land allows, so I cannot see President GEJ become a tyrant without the support of the legislators. The Judiciary also has a big role to play in ensuring justice is served as the Executive implements and enforces the law!

Start from your constituency by organizing a pressure group that will ensure that your representatives (Senate & HOR) do the right thing for your people. If the governed including you, myself and everyone else can hold the legislators accountable, we can make them work for us, rather than working for themselves. We the people have been complacent for too long. The government is not going to work for us if we the people do not demand that they work for us!

The focus on President GEJ or any of the other Presidential candidates as the all in all in finding solution to Nigeria's problems from 2011 onwards is too simplistic, too cheap and outright lazy. We all must work hard to earn the fair politics that will drive Nigeria in the right direction. From 2011 onwards our focus should be how to make SERVICE and GOOD NAME become the uppermost incentive for running for public office at all levels in Nigeria and NOT the perquisites of office. All of us must contribute to the process.

Be blessed, Albert


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From: idowubobo@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:35:15 -0800
Subject: [NaijaElections] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

 
Daniel:
 
Then let us stick with what we all know, the man lack self confidence. So my assertion is a possiblity along with many other factors that we all know may be at work, including someone lying to justify his unsupportable stance.
 
There is no evidence of self confidence in Jonathan today, and that is my concern that evil people that abound in the country will sieze that opportunity to make him a tyrant.
 
Go and read the psychoanalysis of tryants, they fit perfectly well with your description of GEJ.
 
Saddam Hussein, Gadaffi, Hitler and IBB, Abacha are people that lack self confidence in themselves, but when propped up, later became monsters. I pray and hope that is not the case with GEJ. 

Pronto!!!

Idowu
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson

"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
http://www.bezalelskills.com

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, elombah daniel <elsdaniel@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: elombah daniel <elsdaniel@yahoo.com>
Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale
To: NaijaElections@yahoogroups.com, NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com, NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Cc: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com, NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com, nigerianid@yahoogroups.com, "naijaelections@yahoogroups.com" <NaijaElections@yahoogroups.com>, naijaintellects@yahoogroups.com, afenmai@yahoogroups.com, edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 5:24 PM

 
Idowu:

Let us not turn this into a debate about Wikileaks and its contents, I am only concerned at your assertion that UMYA did not hand over to GEJ based on fears as to his competency. That could not be true, that is my point below.

On Jonathan's probable admission to Sanders that he lacked the competence to administer Nigeria, I am not surprised.
Without voicing an opinion as to the level of GEJ's competency, I happen to know that GEJ generally lacks self confidence. I once interacted with GEJ's former speech writer in Bayelsa State. He told me that on the day Alameseigha was impeached, GEJ was very reluctant to assume gubernatorial responsibility. He could not immediately rise up to the ocassion. He had to be prepped and re-assured that he will be equal to the task. The Speech Writer drafted his speech and encouraged him to go ahead and DO IT!

Humility? Incompetence? Lack of confidence? You judge

But if you ask me, that does not mean many people that also lack self confidence could not achieve, if and when they find themselves in a position of responsibility. According to my friend, once GEJ gave that speech, and addressed Bayelsans, thats it!
Jonathan is a human being, like me and you my friend. We all suffer bouts of confidence all the time....God knows I do!

I watched Jonathan's TV address when NASS made him acting president. I and the speech writer analysed it the next day,we agreed it was horrible. But what about now? you saw how he started campaigning, so unsure? what about now?

It is normal for everyone...Look at Obama in 2008, look at him now....

Finally, GEJ may or may not be our president, post April 2011,,,,...but if he wins, NEVER you believe that the GEJ you witness now will be the same GEJ post 2011....

The former speech writer also told me: those who underestimate GEJ does so at their peril...ask Yayale, ask Ibori, ask Atiku!
 
Daniel Elombah
Publisher: www. Elombah.com
(A Nigerian Perspective on World Affairs)
Dalton Russell: Fact is, all lies, all evil deeds, they stink. You can cover them up for a while, but they don't go away




From: idowu <idowubobo@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 10:30:52 PM
Subject: [NaijaElections] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

 
Daniel:
 
Did you read Bankole discussion with US Ambassador about Jonathan-Ibori and Aondoakaa corruption triangle.
 
Did you read wikileak Jonathan self assessment of his competency?
 
Did you read wikileak comment of Oshimole that GEJ voted 4 times.
 
You can not do selective believing of Wikileak expose, you believe one, you have to believe all.

Pronto!!!

Idowu
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson

"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
http://www.bezalelskills.com

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, elombah daniel <elsdaniel@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: elombah daniel <elsdaniel@yahoo.com>
Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale
To: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com, NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:19 PM

 
UMYA might be worried about GEJ competence to steer the ship of the nation in his absence. - Idowu

Do you really believe that? 
Previous wikileaks report rather show some ambitious Hawks around the president desperate to create a wall between UMYA and GEJ (Names like Bukola Saraki and James Ibori easily come to mind)...WHY?

So that they will stop GEJ and take over from UMYA....Just as some previously created that wall between Atiku and OBJ.

But as someone noted below, man proposes.....
...For our thoughts are not his thoughts!
 
Daniel Elombah
Publisher: www. Elombah.com
(A Nigerian Perspective on World Affairs)
Dalton Russell: Fact is, all lies, all evil deeds, they stink. You can cover them up for a while, but they don't go away




From: idowu <idowubobo@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 10:01:20 PM
Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: JUI_Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

 
JUI:
If we believe one wikileak story, we have to believe all the others.
The wikileak stories so far released showed Jonathan as a weak and corrupt individual. So if the perception so far portrayed in the wikileak are true, then although, not defensible, UMYA might be worried about GEJ competence to steer the ship of the nation in his absence.

Pronto!!!

Idowu
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson

"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
http://www.bezalelskills.com

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCEZID) <jbi8@cdc.gov> wrote:

From: Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCEZID) <jbi8@cdc.gov>
Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale
To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Cc: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com, NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com, nigerianid@yahoogroups.com, "naijaelections@yahoogroups.com" <NaijaElections@yahoogroups.com>, naijaintellects@yahoogroups.com, afenmai@yahoogroups.com, edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 3:57 PM

 
"""The leaked diplomatic cables show that Mr. Yar'Adua, after becoming too ill to govern, asked Mr. Ahmed to discharge the functions of president on his behalf, effectively sidelining his deputy, Mr. Jonathan."""Unquote NEXT
 
Shows how some of these folks take the Nigerian Governance as their family domain. UNBELIEVABLE! JUI
 
From: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NNAMDI J
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:12 AM
To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale
USMAN,Is it why your brother violated the Constitution of Nigeria by passing his powers to his brother Yahale, a mere Secretary to the Govt, instead of the Constitutionally-empowered Vice President who happened to be a non-Northerner ? You should condemn wrong when you see one instead of reading all scripts from your regional and ethnic lens.YarAdua and his "friends" who happened to be from your neck of the wood saw Nigeria as their farmstead which ought to remain in their control at all times. Too bad ! Man proposes, God disposes !!!! And God is in-charge !!!!!!!
Nnamdi J. Ijeaku

--- In NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, USMAN YAKUBU <yaqman@...> wrote:
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> Jonathan ,is not equipped for the challenges OBJ set fort for him and more so YarAdua must have checked the facts and seen the reason why luck alone will not be enough to govern. You sure need some gravitas plus common sense.
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> To: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; edo_global@yahoogroups.com
> From: osaigbinosa910@...
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:16:03 +0000
> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale

> Ahmed's disclosure that he acted in Mr. Yar'Adua's stead, ahead of then Vice President Jonathan, offers some insight into the deft political manoeuvring and power play in the country. Photo: NEXT
> Yar'Adua made me acting President, says Yayale
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> By Idris Akinbajo
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> March 8, 2011 06:41AM
> print email
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> As his health failed and he had to be rushed to a Saudi hospital, late president Umaru Yar'Adua illegally bypassed his vice president, Goodluck Jonathan, and handed presidential authority to Yayale Ahmed, the Secretary to the Government of the Federation.
> This unconstitutional act, in November 2009, has now come to light through US diplomatic cables leaked to Wikileaks and made available exclusively to NEXT.
> The sidelining of Mr Jonathan, who finally became president only after Mr Yar'Adua died in March last year, was confirmed to US diplomats by none other than Mr. Ahmed himself.
> The 59-year-old secretary to the government, apparently ran Nigeria, performing the functions of the president, while late president Yar'Adua lay sick, unable to discharge his duties.
> The leaked diplomatic cables show that Mr. Yar'Adua, after becoming too ill to govern, asked Mr. Ahmed to discharge the functions of president on his behalf, effectively sidelining his deputy, Mr. Jonathan.
> The Nigerian Constitution directs the vice-president to discharge the functions of the president whenever the latter proceeds on vacation or becomes unable to perform his duties.
> But Mr. Yar'Adua repeatedly travelled out of the country, at times for prolonged medical treatment, without handing over to his deputy.
> Ahmed goes to Washington
> According to the cable, dated September 17, 2008, Mr. Ahmed told the American ambassador, Robin Sanders, who met him on September 15, 2008, that when president Yar'Adua became too weak to govern, he handed over to him, and asked him to perform the executive functions of the president.
> "Ahmed noted that Yar'Adua had asked him to take over a lot of the day-to-day executive responsibilities due to his health," the ambassador said in her cable to Washington.
> To enable him to consolidate his position as the country's de facto president, Mr. Ahmed then requested direct meetings with senior US government officials. Ms Sanders assured him she would inform Washington of his request.
> It is not clear whether Mr. Ahmed eventually met with American government officials in his capacity as the anointed acting president. He was, however, in Washington on April 6, 2010, where he represented Nigeria at the signing of the US-Nigeria Binational Commission.
> Mr. Ahmed's disclosure that he acted in Mr. Yar'Adua's stead, ahead of then Vice President Jonathan, offers some insight into the deft political manoeuvring and power play in the country during the period the late president was sick and unable to govern.
> Mr. Yar'Adua wouldn't handover to Mr. Jonathan during his numerous trips abroad for medical treatment, allegedly following advice from his wife, Turai, and close associates who claimed the vice president could not be trusted.
> Keeping it among friends
> Even after it became clear that the late president had become incapacitated and would no longer be able to perform the functions of his office, the cabal around him still blocked Mr. Jonathan from ascending to the position of acting president, until the National Assembly and the Nigeria Governors' Forum stepped in.
> In another cable dated October 24, 2008, which profiled Mr. Yar'Adua's kitchen cabinet, the Americans described Mr. Ahmed as a powerful and influential Nigerian who ran the show while the late president was sick.
> Mr. Ahmed, a former defence minister and head of the civil service, became SGF on September 8, 2008, replacing Babagana Kingibe. He thus became one of Mr. Yar'Adua's closest confidants.
> The dispatch described Mr. Ahmed as, "A former classmate of the President; in charge of most of the day-to-day operations of the government; affable but should not be underestimated; reasonably positively disposed towards the U.S.; recommend we take him up on his desire to visit Washington DC.
> "If Yar'Adua weathers the medical issues longer than anticipated, then Yayale Ahmed most likely will be the one running the show behind the scenes unless he is forced out in some political play, which could happen," the cables said.
> Mr. Yayale's spokesperson, Salisu Na'inna said he could not comment on the statements credited to his boss because he was in a meeting when NEXT contacted him. He promised to call back but had not done so at the time of going to press.
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