On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net> wrote:
--Karmoh Sagba, I am talking about active Pan-Afrikanism. These wonderful folks have been educating their folks about Afrika and global Afrikanism, traveling to Afrika, engaging in Afrikan activities, fostering Afrikan culture, attending AU meetings, etc.----- Original Message -----From: Toegondoe SagbahSent: 3/12/2013 6:54:54 PMSubject: Re: [Leonenet] Re: Indegenous Afrikan PakistanisWait, wait, wait are you making these associations based on Race, continentality or nationality? I thought you were talking in terms of direct African lineage to Pakistanis, now you are bringing in ethnic Negroes from New Guinea. Of course every member of the human race with dark complexion is supposed to have roots from Africans, we know that, including Aborigines of Australia, Papua and New Guinea and other Pacific Islanders, but that is not what you brought to us.The photo you have been displaying all over this net and and the worlds was of "African Pakistanis" and your villification of the use of drones. Why have you stretched it to New Guinea now? Are you trying to confuse and dilute the matter enough to make us drop it? After all, your objective was to diss The Great Obums. Please let us focus on that picture. No confusebolation here please, he, he, heeee, .Toegondoe Sagbah, FAT:ISOFFighting Against Tribalism : In Search Of Fairness
From: Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
To: Toegondoe Sagbah <mendemoi01@yahoo.com>; "leonenet@lists.umbc.edu" <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>; "USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com" <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] Re: Indegenous Afrikan Pakistanis
Karmoh Sagba, read my monograph titled Pan-Africanism: The Asian Connection published by CBAAC in Lagos, Nigeria. The India Black Panther Party, for example, has made many gains by employing its Afrikanity. Golden Voice Baby Naznin has led the cause to make significant gains for Afrikan Bangladeshi. New Guineans are making tremendous gains from their Afrikanity. There are many, many, many more such cases all over Asia. It is some of our slow-footed leaders on the Motherland that are preventing us Blacks all over the world from enjoying our global numerical and other superiorities.
> [Original Message]
> From: Toegondoe Sagbah <mendemoi01@yahoo.com>
> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>; USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>; Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
> Date: 3/12/2013 12:58:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] Re: Indegenous Afrikan Pakistanis
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> Dr. AKB,
I am no expert on South East Asia but if there are millions of dark Indians who are even darker than Africans, are these people not the same extent of those dark South East Asians? Why would you try to classify these ones as Africans but not the dark Indians and Bangladeshis who have share the same history, culture and locatlity with them, and who were all under the British till India and Pakinstan were separated? Please stop trying to sell us the Brooklyn Bridge, there are no takers.
Toegondoe Sagbah, FAT:ISOF
Fighting Against Tribalism : In Search Of Fairness
From: Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
>To: "USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com" <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
>Cc: leonenet <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:38 AM
>Subject: [Leonenet] Re: Indegenous Afrikan Pakistanis
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>You are correct, Karmoh Ahovi Kponou. Here are a few links to stories on Afrikans in India. There are some great pictographic al and historical works by the world renowned Pan-Afrikanist Artist and Historian Dr. E. Harper Johnson on Afrikans who emerged from slavery to generals and then to rulers in India. The great Mwalimu Johnson was among a group of Afrikan Americans who supported the cause of the Mau Mau movement, both physically and financially. He also has done similar works on the similar history of Oman.
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>http://www.nypl.org/events/exhibitions/africans-india-slaves-generals-and-rulers
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>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1035389.stm
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>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/africa_india0s_african_communities/html/1.stm
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>http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/students/curriculum/m15/activity2.php
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>http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-africans-of-india-and-pakistan/
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>http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2218/stories/20050909002609100.htm
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>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Hovi sr
>>To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu;Abdul Karim Bangura
>>Cc: leonenet
>>Sent: 3/12/2013 11:10:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] Indegenous Afrikan Pakistanis
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>>AKB,
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>>There was no country of Pakistan when these people got to Karachi 200 years ago. It was India under the British. What I find interesting is that in present day India, there is also a large community of Indians of Afrikan descent who are known as SIDIs. I am not a linguist, but the words SIDI and SHEEDI do seem to have a common origin.
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>>Ahovi
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>>From: Abdul Karim Bangura
>>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 12:02 AM
>>To: USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com
>>Cc: leonenet
>>Subject: [Leonenet] Indegenous Afrikan Pakistanis
>>Next time you cheer Obama on for dropping drones and other bombs in Pakistan, think about these photos!
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>>In pictures: Pakistan's indigenous African community
>>Pakistan's ethnic African community, known as the Sheedi, can be found in Karachi's Lyari neighbourhood. The Sheedi are believed to be descendants of sailors who came to the city 200 years ago.
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