Wednesday, December 31, 2014

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Wilson Iguade: Re: 'Buhari's academic records intact' - Vanguard News

Dear asukuj:

You can be a staunch Buhari partisan without misinforming the public--thereby suggesting that you're simply "padding" your principal's resume.

At the time Maj-Gen Buhari attended the US Army War College, it was NOT a degree-awarding institution. It was only in 2010 or so with the reorganization of the US military institutions (that made the National Defense University the apex military school) that graduates from US Army War College began to obtain degrees--if they write the Master's thesis. Most foreign students (many of whom are on a slightly different track) choose NOT to work for and/or earn the master's degree.

Besides, nomination to study abroad by Nigerian military authorities is one of the most corrupt decisions made in that institution. Sometimes, officers that rank in the third tier of the class are the ones nominated to study overseas or become Nigeria's Defense Attaches abroad. This was especially the case under the watch of folks who became "Generals" merely because they shot at Biafran kwashiokor babies during the civil war.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:16 AM, <asukutj@gmail.com> wrote:
INEC has cleared GMB. The same Vanguard the created the sensational headline is only trying to make amend. 

If our education serve us right we should know that a clueless person can't achieve a General in the Army. Especially with the tough requirement of the various academies and war colleges. 


 Once again Buhari attended & graduated from the United States Army War College 1979-1980, graduates earn a Master's Degree in Strategic Studies.  

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Wilson Iguade
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:05 PM
To: Vin Otuonye
Cc: OA; Okey Iheduru; Mobolaji Aluko; USAAfrica Dialogue; Ebere Onwudiwe; africanworldforum@googlegroups.com; NaijaPolitics e-Group; OmoOdua; naijaintellects; nigerianid@yahoogroups.com; Ra'ayi; Yan Arewa; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com; Esan Forum; okonkwonetworks
Subject: Re: Wilson Iguade: Re: 'Buhari's academic records intact' - Vanguard News

Are you saying the certificate or degree in question was honorary or when a honorary degree or certificate was awarded? If so, it would fall under it being issued in error as I previously indicated, then it can be withdrawn. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:56 AM, "Vin Otuonye" <vincentotuonye@msn.com> wrote:

Wilson:
 
If the certificate or degree awarded by the University is honorary, don't you think the University can withdraw it?
 
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
 

Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Wilson Iguade: Re: 'Buhari's academic records intact' - Vanguard News
From: iguade@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:53:32 -0600
To: oanyadiegwu@yahoo.ca
CC: okeyiheduru@gmail.com; alukome@gmail.com; usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com; futeliv@gmail.com; africanworldforum@googlegroups.com; NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com; OmoOdua@yahoogroups.com; naijaintellects@googlegroups.com; nigerianID@yahoogroups.com; Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com; YanArewa@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com; esan_community@yahoogroups.com; okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com

I don't understand, how can a university withdraw a certificate? Am assuming one attended classes or completed the courses, passed the examination - I mean go through the process before earning a certificate. So, how does a university (as indicated below) threaten to "withdraw" a certificate, makes no sense to me, unless the university issued it in error to begin with, and if so why the threat, just correct the mistake and take back the certificate. 9ja sef, nothing is straight there! Hehehe! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, "OA" <oanyadiegwu@yahoo.ca> wrote:

If ones memory serves one right, I remember that a certain university in the Lagos area recently published its intent to "withdraw" academic certificates of some of its alumni. ‎And a certain VC in a follow-up online discussion perhaps jokingly "threatened" to cause the "withdrawal" of some other persons certificate hereabouts. Could it be that some of these political candidates may have had their certificates "withdrawn" at some point? Or is it that these certificates never existed? Just curious.  


From: Okey Iheduru
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:16 AM
To: Wilson Iguade; Mobolaji Aluko; USAAfrica Dialogue; Ebere Onwudiwe
Cc: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com; NaijaPolitics e-Group; OmoOdua; naijaintellects; nigerianid@yahoogroups.com; Ra'ayi; Yan Arewa; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com; Esan Forum; okonkwonetworks
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Wilson Iguade: Re: 'Buhari's academic records
intact' - Vanguard News

Dear Prof Aluko:

Happy New Year! I trust you had a Merry Christmas.

I'm a bit puzzled at the (partisan?) rationalizations folks (including you) are making regarding General Buhari's non-compliance with INEC requirements for candidates for elective office to submit their certificates. Please reflect on and/or consider the following tit-bits:

1) In the 1960s when a certain cadet and two of his Northern Nigerian compatriots flunked their promotion exams at the Nigerian Military School, Zaria and were withdrawn from the school, the then Defense Minister, Alhaji Ribadu ordered the British Commandant to reinstate those cadets. The Commandant refused, and an incensed Minister Ribadu ordered the Commandant to leave Nigeria within 48 hours, and he did. The cadets were reinstated and went on to become Major-Generals and coup-plotters and destroyers of Nigerian fledgling democracy.

2) It is not true that cadets had to pass the GCE/WAEC to be admitted into foreign military academies--at least not for cadets from certain parts of the country in the 1960s, any way. There were very many that went on to become commissioned officers in the Nigerian Armed Forces who never had more than G-4 (Government Class Four) testimonial from their school Principals.

3) It is also not true, either, that all military officers who "passed through" local military academies in Nigeria must have passed their School Certificate before their admission. Here's why:
(a) Quite a number of serving officers today do not have their degrees from the Nigerian Defense Academy, Kaduna because they either never completed the required course work or did not have the requisite entry qualifications in the first place, contrary to the admissions criteria. NDA became a degree-awarding tertiary institution in 1985.
(b)Participants (students) who must be army Colonels or equivalent ranks in the Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Navy who pass their 48-month Strategic Studies Course at the National Defense College, Abuja at C+ or better grades (very rarely do they award B, let alone A grades) are selected to go on to the University of Ibadan for a six-months top-up course for the Master's degree in Strategic Studies. In 2013, the University of Ibadan rejected a number of these Participants/students because they did not have their School Certificate (particularly a credit pass in English) to the embarrassment of the military authorities in Abuja!

4) In July 2014, the son of a former Chief of Defense Staff (CDS) in Nigeria was shipped back to Nigeria from Pakistan's National Defense Academy with the rank of Sub-Lieutenant. He was in the third year of a four-year degree and commissioning course, but his hosts had had enough of his unruly behavior and they didn't want to jeopardize relations with their Nigerian counterparts by withdrawing him empty-handed (At NDA, Kaduna, you don't even get a transcript if you're withdrawn a week before graduation and commissioning!). Meanwhile, the lad's course mates were still Third-Termers (3rd Year cadets) at the Nigerian Defense Academy--and the brat insisted they must salute him because he's now an officer!. I'm not sure what became of him, but since he's already a COMMISSIONED officer, he's probably going to stay and possibly become a Rear Admiral (equv. Major-General) years from now.

From the foregoing, you can understand why I'm of the opinion that we should not sweep the issue of Maj-Gen Buhari's certificates under the rug. The fact that he has run for president on three previous occasions is irrelevant. What if no one at those times bothered to check his academic qualifications? Besides, it's ridiculous to argue that Military Board has his certificates. My guess is that even if they have the certificates, it would NOT be the originals. The onus is on Candidate Buhari and his supporters to put this matter to rest once and for all. Otherwise, it will stick harder than his Islamist and "indiscipline and corruption" public image.

Peace as always!

Okey

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Wilson Iguade <iguade@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ayo,

Read yours again, you have nothing better to do with your time. Just because you are born to follow follow to the point of being a cultist does not make me so. Done with you utter foolishness.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2014, at 8:04 PM, "'Ayo Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum" <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"All of these nit-pickings are silly school-boy one-up-manships and njakiri.  Our country is in more serious trouble than certificate verification." . . . . Bolaji Aluko

Wilson,
You "love and respect" VC Aluko, yet you disagree with his' above? You have just confirmed why you should be ignored. If you disagree with straight-forward, obviously-sensible statement of someone you love and respect, whose statement will you ever agree with?
 
Ayo Ojutalayo


In as much as I love VC Aluko, and respect him a lot. I dare say that Pastor Joe's analogy is very appropriate. I bring this up NOT for the benefit of VC Aluko, but for the benefits of those that look up to him.
My concern (a reasonable one) is to ensure that best practices are applied. Every elections stands alone or is independent from others, thus the rules and guidelines for that election must be adhered to, as promulgated by the agency. So, if INEC says submit fresh application and documentation, just comply - no one forces anyone to serve or hold PUBLIC office. It MUST be done with FREE will and not with an attitude of doing the citizens a favor, which was deeply suggested when Buhari refused to comply with INEC's rules. God bless, and happy new year 2015. Peace! "I"


Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 30, 2014, at 7:30 PM, "Mobolaji Aluko" <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:


Joe:

There is no point bringing up my university here.  The analogy is  inappropriate.

If I don't respond to you here, you will think that you have scored a bull's eye.  If I respond, there will be more openings.

So I move on.....INEC has the credentials in question from 2011.  All of these nit-pickings are silly school-boy one-up-manships and njakiri.  Our country is in more serious trouble than certificate veriifcations.

And there you have it.


Bolaji Aluko


On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 11:49 PM, 'Joe Attueyi' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Prof Aluko
Is that what applies in your Uni?

The students who passed JAMB but were unsuccessful in your post JAMB test when reapplying simply tell your admissions dept that their school certificates 'are on file'?

Joe

Sent from my Iphone


On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:


My People:

All of the people in the following table in red who ran in 2011 should be able to tell INEC that their certificates (or certifications) are "ON FILE" with INEC,
since they were cleared in 2011.

And there you have it.  We should really move on to more important issues other than burnt or lost certificates.


Bolaji Aluko

 
S/N
Political Party
Presidential Candidate
Vice-Presidential Candidate
Candidates in 2011
1
Peoples Democratic Party (PDP)
President Goodluck Jonathan (incumbent)
VP Namadi Sambo (incumbent)
Goodluck Jonathan; Namadi Sambo (incumbents)
2
 All Progressives Congress (APC)
General Muhammadu Buhari
Prof. Yemi Osinbajo
None; new party formed from CPC (Candidate: General Muhammadu Buhari), ACN and ANPP, and part-APGA
3
 Kowa Party (KP)
Prof. Comfort Oluremi Sonaiya  (F)
Saidu Bobboi
None
4
Hope Democratic Party (HDP)
Ambrose Albert Owuru
Haruna Shaba
Chief Ambrose Owuru; Ibrahim Danjuma Abdullahi
5
Allied Congress Party of Nigeria (ACPN)
Ganiyu Galadima
Balarabe Ahmed
None
6
Alliance for Democracy (AD)
Rafiu Salau
Prof. Clinton Cliff Akuchie
None
7
United Democratic Party (UDP)
Godson Okoye
Haruna Adamu
None
8
African Democratic Congress (ADC)
Dr. Nani Ibrahim Ahmad
Obianuju Murphy-Uzohue (F)
Rev. Peter Uchenna NwangwuNani Ibrahim Ahmad
9
National Conscience Party (NCP)
Martin Onovo
Ibrahim Mohammed
Dele Momodu; Yinusa Tanko
10
Action Alliance (AA)
Tunde Anifowoshe-Kelani
Comrade Paul Ishaka Ofomile
None
11
United Progressive Party (UPP)
Chekwas Okorie
Bello Umar
None
 

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:59 PM, 'Imperial Merchant Trust Ltd' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:


'Buhari's academic records intact'

on December 30, 2014   /   in News 9:00 pm   /   Comments
By Levinus Nwabughiogu
ABUJA –  Head, Media and Publicity of the Buhari Support Organization, BSO, Dr. Chidia Maduekwe last night debunked the insinuations in most quarters of the society that the academic records of his principal and presidential candidate of All Progressive Congress, General Mohammdu Buhari was in doubt.
Speaking with Vanguard, Maduekwue said it was a well orchestrated strategy by Buhari's detractors to sway the minds of the public against him, assuring that they would not succeed.
According to him, the opponents, he said were afraid of Buhari's candidacy hence the smeared campaign against him.
He wondered how a former military Head of State and three times Presidential candidate in previous elections would suddenly be found wanting in his academic qualifications.
buhari221
"There should be no iota of doubt about General Mohammadu Buhari's qualification. The records are there. He was not just a school prefect but a Head Boy. In the ages past, you can not enter the military school if there is any questionable mark about your school certificate or WAEC result as it were.
"So, that is clear. Your entry must be on acceptable pass mark before going to the military academy. Of course, the records are there both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria for anybody to cross check. We thank God we now live in the age of online.
"You can google everything. I mean, he couldn't have run the presidential election for three times…and each time his documentation must be assessed by INEC. But now is the first time they are coming up with that.
You might also like
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/buharis-academic-records-intact/#sthash.M44G9htT.dpuf


Sent from my iPad
--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/76538BED-7A76-4364-B0F3-F3D030F8B35B%40yahoo.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/CAORq2DCT1aCU7EmQtYyu25mp-BcqhfrG5otwijK3yMvQQLD9aQ%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/C2AA15D2-9741-4250-8E28-C77471690F16%40yahoo.com.

For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/CAORq2DB-yQa4r60EbTPoa5T%2BizFLfJxqxst4SdOstELKoxnF0Q%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/COL403-EAS286BB7F8A95A87C5EBCED1FD45F0%40phx.gbl.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



--

---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/215818031.2951089.1419991446485.JavaMail.yahoo%40jws106104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
OkonkwoNetworks..........Building NIGERIA of our DREAM
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OkonkwoNetworks" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to okonkwonetworks+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



--
Okey Iheduru, PhD
You can access some of my papers on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=2131462.

--
OkonkwoNetworks..........Building NIGERIA of our DREAM
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OkonkwoNetworks" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to okonkwonetworks+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
OkonkwoNetworks..........Building NIGERIA of our DREAM
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OkonkwoNetworks" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to okonkwonetworks+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
OkonkwoNetworks..........Building NIGERIA of our DREAM
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OkonkwoNetworks" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to okonkwonetworks+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
Okey Iheduru, PhD
You can access some of my papers on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=2131462.

--
Listserv moderated by Toyin Falola, University of Texas at Austin
To post to this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com
To subscribe to this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue+subscribe@googlegroups.com
Current archives at http://groups.google.com/group/USAAfricaDialogue
Early archives at http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/index.html
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "USA Africa Dialogue Series" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to usaafricadialogue+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

No comments:

Post a Comment

 
Vida de bombeiro Recipes Informatica Humor Jokes Mensagens Curiosity Saude Video Games Car Blog Animals Diario das Mensagens Eletronica Rei Jesus News Noticias da TV Artesanato Esportes Noticias Atuais Games Pets Career Religion Recreation Business Education Autos Academics Style Television Programming Motosport Humor News The Games Home Downs World News Internet Car Design Entertaimment Celebrities 1001 Games Doctor Pets Net Downs World Enter Jesus Variedade Mensagensr Android Rub Letras Dialogue cosmetics Genexus Car net Só Humor Curiosity Gifs Medical Female American Health Madeira Designer PPS Divertidas Estate Travel Estate Writing Computer Matilde Ocultos Matilde futebolcomnoticias girassol lettheworldturn topdigitalnet Bem amado enjohnny produceideas foodasticos cronicasdoimaginario downloadsdegraca compactandoletras newcuriosidades blogdoarmario arrozinhoii sonasol halfbakedtaters make-it-plain amatha