History should not be distorted to suit ones political preference. Ahmadu Bello was District Head of Rabah (a Sokoto Division) between 1934 and 1938. When Sultan Hassan of Sokoto died in 1938, Ahmadu Bello competed against Abubakar for elevation to Sultan in vain. Instead Ahmadu Bello was appointed Sardauna of Sokoto. He was the first holder of that title to be a member of the Sultan's Council and was assigned to administer the sub-divisional area of Gusau. Between 1943 and 1944, Ahmadu Bello was tried and convicted by the Sultan's Court for alleged discrepancies in the JANGALI (cattle tax) account under his administration. But the conviction was reversed on appeal to a British High Court, and the Sardauna returned to the Sokoto Native Administration to assume the portfolio of Social Services with responsibility for education and police. Thereafter, his relationship with Sultan Abubakar ceased to be that of rivals. Even as Ahamadu Bello became the leader of NPC and Premier of Northern Region, his expressed greatest ambition in life was to be Sultan of Sokoto. With this background it is easy to understand why he chose not be Prime Minister as narrated by Richard L. Sklar in his book, Nigerian Political Parties : Powers In An Emergent African Nation.
The federal election of December 1959 was conducted to elect a government and its leader that would usher Nigeria into independence in 1960. The leader of the NCNC and Premier of Eastern Region, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, as well as the leader of AG and Premier of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, decided to vacate their post to contest for the Prime Minister of the federation. Thus, Awolowo handed over the premiership of Western Region to the deputy leader of his party, Samuel Akintola, while in the East Azikiwe handed over to Michael Ihenokura Okpara. Ahmadu Bello, the Premier of Northern Nigeria and the leader of NPC, decided to remain in the North while conceding the contest of Prime Minister's post to his deputy, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa. What we are being told by our well read Nigerian Historian is that the British founded NPC, made Ahmadu Bello its leader, which automatically made him qualified to contest for the Prime ministership of the federation, but somehow the British did not want him to be Prime Minister, therefore they planted Balewa into the post. That is a pure circulatory reasoning because Britain, the alleged founder of the NPC, could equally have decided who should be leader of the party and consequently who should automatically be entitled to contest for the post of Prime Minister. Nigerians love to corrupt everything, even historical records.
The federal election of December 1959 was conducted to elect a government and its leader that would usher Nigeria into independence in 1960. The leader of the NCNC and Premier of Eastern Region, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, as well as the leader of AG and Premier of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, decided to vacate their post to contest for the Prime Minister of the federation. Thus, Awolowo handed over the premiership of Western Region to the deputy leader of his party, Samuel Akintola, while in the East Azikiwe handed over to Michael Ihenokura Okpara. Ahmadu Bello, the Premier of Northern Nigeria and the leader of NPC, decided to remain in the North while conceding the contest of Prime Minister's post to his deputy, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa. What we are being told by our well read Nigerian Historian is that the British founded NPC, made Ahmadu Bello its leader, which automatically made him qualified to contest for the Prime ministership of the federation, but somehow the British did not want him to be Prime Minister, therefore they planted Balewa into the post. That is a pure circulatory reasoning because Britain, the alleged founder of the NPC, could equally have decided who should be leader of the party and consequently who should automatically be entitled to contest for the post of Prime Minister. Nigerians love to corrupt everything, even historical records.
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Still on Awo
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:59:31 +0000
Ahmadu Bello did not refuse to be Prime Minister - even though he might say so. The British had their man already, and the British did not really trust him, especially after his case embezzling district funds - a case for which Bode Thomas stood as his lawyer, following which he changed his name from Ahmadu Rabah to Ahmadu Bello. Too complicated to narrate fully here. Besides, by 1954, the Regions had become self-governing entities with real power. The central government as at 1957 was not as attractive. The dynamic of power began to shift from '59 to a central government, and by then the Brits had fukly groomed Balewa, and placed his hand firmly at the trigger. Part of the arrangement when the Brit's organized and founded the NPC was to prepare Sir Abubakar and groom him for the job of Nigerian Prime Minister in the fullness of time. Trevor Clark's biography of Sir Abubakar gives us some hints about his recruitment and preparation. All the ignorant myth about Nigeria continues to circulate because people neither read, nor do they, when they do, make an informed hint, or search through the vast archives already there beyond the popular rumours. A lot of literate Nigerians are poorly educated, and have very little capacity but to ventriloquize popular street talk.
Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: Still on Awo
As far as I know, no one has ever accused Mallam Aminu of tribalism....I stand to be
corrected. -- Prof Abba Gumel
corrected. -- Prof Abba Gumel
Comment:
Abba,
You are not comparing like with like. Comparing Aminu Kano with Awo is like comparing the apple with orange. Aminu Kano had never been the Premier of North. Ahmadu Bello was. And Awo was the Premier of the West. Some of Awo's problems stem from the passion with which he governed his constituency - the West, when he was the Premier. With meagre income, he successfully provided his people Free Education Scheme (UPE). And with revenue from oil, he promised to provide the entire Nigerian nation-state Free Education at All levels. But the ruling class prevented him.
Due to his vision and love for Nigeria, he left his premiership position for his Deputy (S.L. Akintola) to become the Leader of Opposition - a stepping stone to becoming the Prime Minister.
On the other hand, Ahmadu Bello hated other races so much so that he refused to be the Prime Minister of Nigeria. He opted instead to remain in his northern enclave even when he was the rightful person to head the Nigerian government. He asked his Deputy - Abubakar Tafawa Balewa to assume the office instead. Was he a nationalist? Of course the answer is a clear CAPITAL NO!
Was Awo a nationalist? The answer is a clear CAPITAL YES!
So, compare Awo with Bello, not with Aminu Kano.
Have a good one,
Emeka Reuben Okala
London, UK
"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."
On Friday, 29 January 2016, 15:54, Vin Otuonye <Vincentotuonye@msn.com> wrote:
Please make sense.
The problem with Leye Ige is he's so sure and confident of his opinions even when those opinions are manifestly flawed.
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
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Subject: Re: NigerianID | Still on Awo
"As far as I know, no one has ever accused Mallam Aminu of tribalism....I stand to be corrected"--Abba Gumel
Why would anyone accuse Aminu Kano of "tribalism" when MOST of Awo's accusers were/are in the same camp with him(Aminu Kano)?
Leye Ige
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Date: Friday, January 29, 2016, 12:35 AM
Mallam Emeka,
I also read Awo's books and
attended at least five of his rallies....maybe I also count
as his ``associate". I probably read everything
written by (and on) Mallam Aminu Kano. I surely wasn't
his ``associate", but did learn a great deal just
observing him (on and off the political stage). What a
great man he was. As far as I know, no one has ever
accused Mallam Aminu of tribalism....I stand to be
corrected.
Abba
On 28
January 2016 at 19:33, Chukwuemeka Okala <reukal@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
"Emeka you may know Awo, but you
weren't his associate." - Prof. Abba
Gumel
Comment:Abba,By all considerations, I was Awo's
associate. I say, we were both in the same party (UPN) and
we were both officials of the party, albeit at different
levels. But the fact remains that I unusually interacted
with Papa in that capacity much more than you can imagine. I
did not just see him the way you saw Mallam Aminu Kano
interacting with little children and his friends, I worked
with him as a party official! I read his memoirs, I read his
books and he physically addressed us
occasionally.
Awo was a vivacious nigerian nationalist and
politician with unqualified and unstoppable gumption to see
Nigeria on a global map of the world's greatest
countries. Yes, Awo was not in politics to "play"
politics, he was in politics to make Nigeria great. Such a
person cannot be a tribalist!
Emeka Reuben
OkalaLondon, UK"Faith
[Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when
reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going
because it connects you to
God."
On Thursday, 28
January 2016, 21:30, "Abba Gumel abba2007@gmail.com
[NigerianID]" <NigerianID-noreply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Hehehehhehehhe. Nice
one, Leye. So, it is official....my bro. Joe the Pastor is
now a ``tribalist"-:))).The question is
which tribe does he apply his tribalism for or on behalf
for? That is the (key) question.....and as our mutual
buddy, Bolaji, would say, ``inquiring minds want to
know"-:))).
Abba
On 25
January 2016 at 08:05, Leye Ige <ige.leye@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Sometimes it may actually take one
tribalist to recognise another."--Joe Attueyi
Following your logic, since you regard Awo as a
"tribalist"--you are also a tribalist, and by
extension the "millions outside the SW" must also
be tribalists; hence "tribalism" COULD NOT have
been the reason for his being rejected.
Leye Ige
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Date: Monday, January 25, 2016, 6:11 AM
Pastor Okala,I cannot begrudge
you your personal opinion / perception about
Awo.
However you are
shifting the goal posts. Yours that I responded to was
the
argument that '.. The ones
accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very epitome
of
tribalism'. As if
there is something inherently wrong with a tribalist
recognising a fellow tribalist. That is your argument
that
did not make sense to me. Sometimes it may actually take
one
tribalist to recognise another.
Joe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, 'Chukwuemeka
Okala' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
"Let's
for argument say I am a tribalist. I have not yet sought
the
presidency of Nigeria. I wish to seek the presidency of
Nigeria. I now realise that being a tribalist stopped
Awo
from becoming president of Nigeria. And I say
so---thereby
reminding myself that I have to choose between being a
tribalist and being Nigeria's president as the two
are
mutually exclusive ( Awo being proof positive). What
exactly
is wrong with that?" - Joe
Attueyi
Comment:I was the
Campaign Strategist of the Youth Wing arm of the now
defunct
UPN in Rivers State (1978-9) and I worked very closely
with
Awo who was the Presidential Candidate of the party at
the
time. I make bold to say that there was no element of
tribalism in him. All I saw in Awo was a very visionary
and
determined man who committed all in him in terms of
skill,
vision, money, experience, energy and scholarship to
see
Nigeria as Africa's leading light in the scheme of
things.
You may
want to prove any other leader tribalism positive, but
with
Awo, that's a misnomer!
And there
you have it. (Apologies Bolaji Aluko).
Emeka
Reuben OkalaLondon,
UK"Faith
[Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But
when
reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on
going
because it connects you to
God."
On Monday, 25 January 2016, 10:18, "Joe
Attueyi topcrestt@yahoo.com
[NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
There are certain arguments one reads
hereabouts that don't make sense. One of them
:
The ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are
the very epitome of
tribalism!
Let's for argument say I am a
tribalist. I have not yet sought the presidency of
Nigeria.
I wish to seek the presidency of Nigeria. I now realise
that
being a tribalist stopped Awo from becoming president
of
Nigeria. And I say so---thereby reminding myself that I
have
to choose between being a tribalist and being
Nigeria's
president as the two are mutually exclusive ( Awo being
proof positive). What exactly is wrong with
that?
Joe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:33 AM, 'Ayo
Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
"The
ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very
epitome
of tribalism!
Even as we talk, they want to secede from Nigeria for
no
other reason
than they cannot get on with their fellow Nigerians of
other
tribes.
They feign marginalisation where there is none all in
the
name of
secession, for no other purpose than that they want to
keep
their tribe
and turn it to an independent nation of its own - even
as
their
investments and over 90% of their collective wealth are
scattered all
over Nigeria. How else can one define tribalism?" . .
.
Emeka Okala
Ayo
Ojutalayo
"The
ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in
moments of
comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times
of
challenge and controversy. " . . . Martin Luther King
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23, 2016 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Abba Gumel
and Kwankwaso ungrateful to Yoruba : Re: Abba, what then
is
tr...
Is
there
anything Abba said about Awo that is not known by 99%
of
Nigerians? Awo
was a visionary, yes, but he was also a tribalist -- he
was
the father
of the politics of dividing Nigerians along tribal
lines -- a divisive
mechanism in the Nigerian political process. Do not
let
Leye Ige and Ayo
Ojutalayo, two experts at concerted
flatulence expulsion,
fool you with
their agonizing yowls.
By no
means
does the above suggest that the Northern leaders of the
era
(Sarduana and
Balewa) were not equally tribalistic. They were tribal
lords
too, their only
distinction with Awo was that they were straightforward.
Awo
was as cunning
about his tribalism as are his worshippers of Ige and
Ojutalayo today.
Make una
let
man picking dey observe this snow, ojare!
Nebukadineze
Adiele
Reject Religion;
Relive Reason!
In a message dated 1/23/2016 3:37:05 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time,
abujarock@gmail.com
writes:
See what
Hausa Fulani mindset sounds
like? and what
they are now
telling Yoruba.
Abba Gumel the
Professor and Senator kwankwaso the
corrupt former Governor,
have the guts to say
these to Yoruba after the
election of Buhari. Before the APC
and ACN
merger and during
the election they would
not have made these ungrateful
statements.
Talk about being
ungrateful.
http://www.nigeriadailynews.news/news/214637-shut-up-rabiu-kwankwaso-insults-yoruba-elders-over-secession-threat.html
27/10/2015 05:50:0
Mojisola
Mba
Senator Alhaji
Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso, has
asked elders of the Yorubaland to
'shut
up' over their recent
secession threat, following the
kidnapping of
a former Secretary
to the Government of the Federation
(SGF),
Chief Olu Falae, and
the perceived lack of true federalism
in the
nation's
polity.According to THISDAY,
Kwankwaso said
the call by these
elders was misguided and politically
motivated
stressing that no
zone can be an island on its own,
just as he
remarked that what
the Fulani herdsmen that were being
asked to
leave Yorubaland
needed was education on how to go
about their
cattle rearing
business. Unquote Senator Alhaji
Rabiu Musa
Kwankwas
On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Abba
Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
I shall say onto the Awoist to
``bring
it on".
Hehehehhehhehe. There is no
comparison
between Awo and
PMB. The former was a
tribalist. The
latter is
decidedly not (he is an
un-repented
nationalist). Having
said this, I must also concede
that Awo had
some qualities that
are inherently
Buharistic....qualities of
patriotism, vision,
father figure, strength and
people (in
Awo's case, ``his
people") centredness. I
saw an
admirable sentimental
side of Awo when he came to
console us (the
great people of
Kano) over the passing of Mallam
Aminu in
1983. I used to
make a point to attend Awo's
rallies
whenever he came to
town...not to listen to what he
had to say,
but actually to see
his helicopter (we were young
pikins
then).
Hehehehhehehehehe.
Abba
Abba Gumel via googlegroups.com
Hehehehhehehe. My views on
Awo are
well-known. I have been espousing them for over a
decade....there are
some who would think he was not what some of us thought
he
was. We have
since learnt to agree to disagree on that.....but, I
think, history would show
that we were right (we always are, anyway...it is in
our
veins).
Awo would have been an excellent President....but he
wasn't electable because
of how he was perceived (rightly or wrongly) by the
rest
of us outside the
SW. Tinubu, on the other hand (who some call ``the
new
Awo") is
very much electable....because he, unlike Awo, was able
to
build a national
coalition (and I am yet to hear anyone labelling him as
a
tribalist.....he has
other labels though (some of which I am sure you would
be
quick to remind us
in your response), but being tribalist isn't one
of
them).
Abba
On 21 January 2016
at 12:50, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I
shall say onto the Awoist
to ``bring it on". Hehehehhehhehe. There
is
no comparison
between Awo and PMB. The former was a
tribalist.
The latter is
decidedly not (he is an un-repented
nationalist). Abba
Gumel
Abba
my
brother , what a gauntlet you have thrown. Let's
see
whether Afis and Ayo
will pick it up. Or they will leave it to the
intellectuals like Prof Aluko
and 'Leye Ige' or better still to the
grand
defender himself my oga at the
top Prof Adeniran Adeboye
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Bro. Joe,
My own view of Awo was based on what I personally
heard from some of
Awo's peers and what I have read from the
writings
(memoirs mostly) of some of
those peers of his. I also saw (with my own eyes)
his
actions during the
PPA/PPP alliance initiative. Those within the SW may
not
know how others
saw their hero....but he surely was seen by the
overwhelming majority outside
the SW in the way that we described. There are
lessons
to be
learnt....and I think the likes of MKO and Tinubu
made
this quite clear.
It is not about Awo bashing. It is about
presenting
history from the
vantage point of those of us in the know. No be
so-:)))?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016
at 12:59 PM, 'Ayo Ojutalayo' via
NaijaEvent <naijaevent@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Abba: Tribalism isn't about
diverting to one's tribe that
which belongs to another. Awo was a tribalist in
the
eyes of pretty much
all his peers outside the SW.
Ayo: I am happy
you cannot cite an
instance of Awo diverting to his
"tribe"
what should have gone to another
"tribe". What then is tribalism? So you
have
no evidence that Awo was a
tribalist? You only believe he was a tribalist
because
he "was a tribalist
in the eyes of pretty much all his peers
outside
SW"? That is why I
normally don't bother to defend allegation
of
tribalism against Papa
Awolowo. It is a baseless allegation. You are
guilty
of the same thing I
quarrel with people for concerning Buhari
being
"a tribalist in the eyes
of pretty much of Nigerians from the South".
You
must have read allegation
of tribalism against Buhari for visiting Oyo
State
Governor to complain
about harassment of Fulanis and their cows
while
traveling through Oyo
State. My response was that I expected Obasanjo
to do
the same if Yorubas
complain of being harassed any where outside SW.
That
is not tribalism.
That Sadauna preferred to remain as Premier of
Northern Region instead of
being the country's Prime Minister was to me,
not
tribalism even though
"in the eyes of millions of Nigerians it
was
tribalism". That Ojukwu led
Igbos in an attempt to secede from Nigeria did
not
mean that he was a
tribalist. Unlike what happens in developed
countries
where younger
generations form their own opinions of people
and
issues concerning other
ethnicities and races (in most cases disagreeing
with
their parents'
stereotypes, biases and prejudices), your
generation
in Nigeria
unfortunately just agreed with what was passed on
to
you by a biased and
prejudiced older generation.
Abba: The SW region is not any
better up in terms of
public education than the rest of the country...
there
isn't a single
school in the SW that matters in the global
scheme of
things (the entire
education system in the country has failed, so
the
notion of one region
doing any better than the others is, in my
estimation,
neither here nor
there).
Ayo: Abba,
this is not an academic
discussion, you know what I am talking about.
You
cannot compare literacy
level of SW with that of Northern Nigeria, and it
has
to do with what
Awolowo and his team did in the 50's and
the
60's. There have been public
confessions of professionals that said they would
not
have gone to school
or beyond primary school if not for Awo's
free
education. Such
individual's children who are also
professionals
today might not have gone
to school if their parents did not go to school.
There
have been
Easterners who made such confessions having
enjoyed
Awo's free education.
We don't need statistics to know that there
must
be more Doctors, more
Engineers etc from each of SW states than from
all the
Northern States
combined for example. Papa Awo foresaw this
situation
and wanted it
avoided with his education plan for the whole
country.
If he were a
tribalist, he would not have wished for the
whole
country, the "good life"
he provided for his
"tribe".
Abba: It isn't true that Awo
was resented by
folks North of the Niger because the Northern
elites
didn't want the North
to be educated (people keep attributing such to
the
elites, and they
couldn't be more wrong; there was a reason
why
people resisted western
education at some point in history....we should
not
try to re-write
history).
Ayo: Okay
Abba, why was Awo
resented by folks North of Niger? Why would he
not be
allowed to campaign
in Northern towns and cities? Why do first
class
educated people like Abba
still believe Awo was a tribalist without
evidence?
Please send me a personal copy of
your response as your
postings don't get to me for whatever
reason.
Ayo
Ojutalayo
From:
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To: Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>;
Esan Forum <esan_community@yahoogroups.com>;
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Sent: Friday, January
22, 2016 2:33
AM
Subject: Re:
[NIgerianWorldForum] Abba: Re: Awo's free
education
Gworo guy, Abba,
Trump is coming for your Moslem ass in USA? If
you
need a place to
hide, drive down to Dallas, you can hide in my shed
in
my backyard.
Make sure they don't find out about your
activities
at the Madrases in
Malaysia, you hear me!
Now, you said "Tribalism
isn't about diverting to
one's tribe that which belongs to another."
If
this is not tribalism at its
worst as practiced by Buhari, what is?
To be clear, the worst tribalism is stealing
from others, as in
"...diverting to one's tribe that
which belongs to
another."
Buhari is a damn tribalist, period! Look at what
is
happening in the
country today!
Stay tuned! Iguade
Sent from
my iPhone
On Jan 21, 2016, at 11:01 PM,
"Abba Gumel" <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ayo,
Tribalism isn't about diverting to
one's
tribe that which belongs to
another. Awo was a tribalist in the eyes of
pretty
much all
his peers outside the SW. The SW region is not
any
better up in
terms of public education than the rest of the
country... there isn't a
single school in the SW that matters in the
global
scheme of things (the
entire education system in the country has
failed, so
the notion of one
region doing any better than the others is, in
my
estimation, neither here
nor there). It isn't true that Awo
was resented by folks
North of the Niger because the Northern elites
didn't want the North to be
educated (people keep attributing such to the
elites,
and they couldn't be
more wrong; there was a reason why people
resisted
western education at
some point in history....we should not try to
re-write
history).
Abba
On 21 January 2016 at 20:02, Ayotade Ojutalayo ayoojuts@yahoo.com
[NIgerianWorldForum]
<NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Abba,
You said Papa Awolowo was a
tribalist. I am sure you
cannot cite an instant when he diverted to
his
"tribe" what should have
gone to another "tribe". Have you
read or
heard of how Gowon speaks of
Papa Awolowo with reverence whenever he
speaks
about Papa Awo? If
Papa Awo had been Prime Minister of Nigeria
for five
years only, would
Northern Nigeria be as educationally backward
as it
is today? You
probably were too young to know that the
resentment
of Northern
politicians for Awo was, among other things,
because
of the Northern
establishment leaders' determination to
shield
Northern Talakawas from
western education and western ways of life.
What
Papa Awolowo did for
Western Region as Premier, he wanted to do
for
Nigeria as Prime Minister
hence he resigned as Premier to become the
national
opposition leader.
What was tribalistic in that?
Because PMB is a frank, honest
and humble person, I
am sure PMB will not hesitate to say that
comparing
him with Papa Awo is
like comparing sleep with death and that he
was not
fit to untie shoe
lace of any of Papa Awo, Sadauna, Zik and
Abubakar
Tafawa
Balewa.
Ayo
Ojutalayo
From:
"Abba Gumel abba2007@gmail.com
[NIgerianWorldForum]"
<NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
To: Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
Cc: Yahoo! Inc. <wharfsnake@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January
21, 2016
2:25 PM
Subject:
[NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Awo's free
education
I shall say onto the Awoist to ``bring it
on".
Hehehehhehhehe. There is no comparison
between Awo
and PMB.
The former was a tribalist. The latter is
decidedly not (he is an
un-repented nationalist). Having said this,
I must
also concede
that Awo had some qualities that are
inherently
Buharistic....qualities
of patriotism, vision, father figure,
strength and
people (in Awo's
case, ``his people") centredness. I
saw an
admirable
sentimental side of Awo when he came to
console us
(the great people of
Kano) over the passing
of Mallam Aminu in 1983. I used to make a
point to attend
Awo's rallies whenever he came to
town...not to
listen to what he had to
say, but actually to see his helicopter (we
were
young pikins
then). Hehehehhehehehehe.
Abba
On 21 January 2016 at 12:11, Joe Attueyi
<topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In
other words, PMB's
civil servants are a lot smarter
(judging by
predisposition to make
typographical error) than Awo's.
Hehehehe! You want to inherit the annual
ritual of Awo vs Ojukwu/
Biafra debate? Turn it to PMB Vs Awo? De
ting
requires staying power
o-----year in; year out!
Joe
Sent from
my iPhone
On Jan 21, 2016, at 6:58 PM,
Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hehehehhehehhe. The write-up in the
document is poorly
punctuated. For instance, there ought to
be
commas after the word
``receive" and the figure
``1965". There should be a period
(full stop) after ``charge".
There should
be a comma after
``On behalf of the people". Need
I go
on? The
document is filled with
errors..... a lot
more than
the innocent single typo (of 2016
instead of
2015) in PMB's
letter.
In other words, PMB's civil
servants
are a lot smarter (judging
by predisposition to make typographical
error)
than
Awo's. Hehehhehehe. Na you
cause am
wo...you
should let the sleeping Ajegunlean dog
to lie
kampe wo.
Abba (having a bellyful laugh of
Bolajic
proportion)
On 21 January 2016 at 10:12, Joe
Attueyi
<topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When
there was a country........and civil
servants
could write error
free letters
Joe
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Why would anyone accuse Aminu Kano of "tribalism" when MOST of Awo's accusers were/are in the same camp with him(Aminu Kano)?
Leye Ige
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On Fri, 1/29/16, Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: NigerianID | Still on Awo
To: "Chukwuemeka Okala" <reukal@yahoo.co.uk>
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Date: Friday, January 29, 2016, 12:35 AM
Mallam Emeka,
I also read Awo's books and
attended at least five of his rallies....maybe I also count
as his ``associate". I probably read everything
written by (and on) Mallam Aminu Kano. I surely wasn't
his ``associate", but did learn a great deal just
observing him (on and off the political stage). What a
great man he was. As far as I know, no one has ever
accused Mallam Aminu of tribalism....I stand to be
corrected.
Abba
On 28
January 2016 at 19:33, Chukwuemeka Okala <reukal@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
"Emeka you may know Awo, but you
weren't his associate." - Prof. Abba
Gumel
Comment:Abba,By all considerations, I was Awo's
associate. I say, we were both in the same party (UPN) and
we were both officials of the party, albeit at different
levels. But the fact remains that I unusually interacted
with Papa in that capacity much more than you can imagine. I
did not just see him the way you saw Mallam Aminu Kano
interacting with little children and his friends, I worked
with him as a party official! I read his memoirs, I read his
books and he physically addressed us
occasionally.
Awo was a vivacious nigerian nationalist and
politician with unqualified and unstoppable gumption to see
Nigeria on a global map of the world's greatest
countries. Yes, Awo was not in politics to "play"
politics, he was in politics to make Nigeria great. Such a
person cannot be a tribalist!
Emeka Reuben
OkalaLondon, UK"Faith
[Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when
reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going
because it connects you to
God."
On Thursday, 28
January 2016, 21:30, "Abba Gumel abba2007@gmail.com
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wrote:
Hehehehhehehhe. Nice
one, Leye. So, it is official....my bro. Joe the Pastor is
now a ``tribalist"-:))).The question is
which tribe does he apply his tribalism for or on behalf
for? That is the (key) question.....and as our mutual
buddy, Bolaji, would say, ``inquiring minds want to
know"-:))).
Abba
On 25
January 2016 at 08:05, Leye Ige <ige.leye@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Sometimes it may actually take one
tribalist to recognise another."--Joe Attueyi
Following your logic, since you regard Awo as a
"tribalist"--you are also a tribalist, and by
extension the "millions outside the SW" must also
be tribalists; hence "tribalism" COULD NOT have
been the reason for his being rejected.
Leye Ige
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Date: Monday, January 25, 2016, 6:11 AM
Pastor Okala,I cannot begrudge
you your personal opinion / perception about
Awo.
However you are
shifting the goal posts. Yours that I responded to was
the
argument that '.. The ones
accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very epitome
of
tribalism'. As if
there is something inherently wrong with a tribalist
recognising a fellow tribalist. That is your argument
that
did not make sense to me. Sometimes it may actually take
one
tribalist to recognise another.
Joe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, 'Chukwuemeka
Okala' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
"Let's
for argument say I am a tribalist. I have not yet sought
the
presidency of Nigeria. I wish to seek the presidency of
Nigeria. I now realise that being a tribalist stopped
Awo
from becoming president of Nigeria. And I say
so---thereby
reminding myself that I have to choose between being a
tribalist and being Nigeria's president as the two
are
mutually exclusive ( Awo being proof positive). What
exactly
is wrong with that?" - Joe
Attueyi
Comment:I was the
Campaign Strategist of the Youth Wing arm of the now
defunct
UPN in Rivers State (1978-9) and I worked very closely
with
Awo who was the Presidential Candidate of the party at
the
time. I make bold to say that there was no element of
tribalism in him. All I saw in Awo was a very visionary
and
determined man who committed all in him in terms of
skill,
vision, money, experience, energy and scholarship to
see
Nigeria as Africa's leading light in the scheme of
things.
You may
want to prove any other leader tribalism positive, but
with
Awo, that's a misnomer!
And there
you have it. (Apologies Bolaji Aluko).
Emeka
Reuben OkalaLondon,
UK"Faith
[Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But
when
reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on
going
because it connects you to
God."
On Monday, 25 January 2016, 10:18, "Joe
Attueyi topcrestt@yahoo.com
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wrote:
There are certain arguments one reads
hereabouts that don't make sense. One of them
:
The ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are
the very epitome of
tribalism!
Let's for argument say I am a
tribalist. I have not yet sought the presidency of
Nigeria.
I wish to seek the presidency of Nigeria. I now realise
that
being a tribalist stopped Awo from becoming president
of
Nigeria. And I say so---thereby reminding myself that I
have
to choose between being a tribalist and being
Nigeria's
president as the two are mutually exclusive ( Awo being
proof positive). What exactly is wrong with
that?
Joe
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On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:33 AM, 'Ayo
Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
"The
ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very
epitome
of tribalism!
Even as we talk, they want to secede from Nigeria for
no
other reason
than they cannot get on with their fellow Nigerians of
other
tribes.
They feign marginalisation where there is none all in
the
name of
secession, for no other purpose than that they want to
keep
their tribe
and turn it to an independent nation of its own - even
as
their
investments and over 90% of their collective wealth are
scattered all
over Nigeria. How else can one define tribalism?" . .
.
Emeka Okala
Ayo
Ojutalayo
"The
ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in
moments of
comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times
of
challenge and controversy. " . . . Martin Luther King
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Subject: Re: Abba Gumel
and Kwankwaso ungrateful to Yoruba : Re: Abba, what then
is
tr...
Is
there
anything Abba said about Awo that is not known by 99%
of
Nigerians? Awo
was a visionary, yes, but he was also a tribalist -- he
was
the father
of the politics of dividing Nigerians along tribal
lines -- a divisive
mechanism in the Nigerian political process. Do not
let
Leye Ige and Ayo
Ojutalayo, two experts at concerted
flatulence expulsion,
fool you with
their agonizing yowls.
By no
means
does the above suggest that the Northern leaders of the
era
(Sarduana and
Balewa) were not equally tribalistic. They were tribal
lords
too, their only
distinction with Awo was that they were straightforward.
Awo
was as cunning
about his tribalism as are his worshippers of Ige and
Ojutalayo today.
Make una
let
man picking dey observe this snow, ojare!
Nebukadineze
Adiele
Reject Religion;
Relive Reason!
In a message dated 1/23/2016 3:37:05 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time,
abujarock@gmail.com
writes:
See what
Hausa Fulani mindset sounds
like? and what
they are now
telling Yoruba.
Abba Gumel the
Professor and Senator kwankwaso the
corrupt former Governor,
have the guts to say
these to Yoruba after the
election of Buhari. Before the APC
and ACN
merger and during
the election they would
not have made these ungrateful
statements.
Talk about being
ungrateful.
http://www.nigeriadailynews.news/news/214637-shut-up-rabiu-kwankwaso-insults-yoruba-elders-over-secession-threat.html
| www.nigeriadailynews.news Senator Alhaji Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso, has asked elders of the Yorubaland to 'shut up' over their recent secession threat, following the kidnapping of a former |
27/10/2015 05:50:0
Mojisola
Mba
Senator Alhaji
Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso, has
asked elders of the Yorubaland to
'shut
up' over their recent
secession threat, following the
kidnapping of
a former Secretary
to the Government of the Federation
(SGF),
Chief Olu Falae, and
the perceived lack of true federalism
in the
nation's
polity.According to THISDAY,
Kwankwaso said
the call by these
elders was misguided and politically
motivated
stressing that no
zone can be an island on its own,
just as he
remarked that what
the Fulani herdsmen that were being
asked to
leave Yorubaland
needed was education on how to go
about their
cattle rearing
business. Unquote Senator Alhaji
Rabiu Musa
Kwankwas
On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Abba
Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
I shall say onto the Awoist to
``bring
it on".
Hehehehhehhehe. There is no
comparison
between Awo and
PMB. The former was a
tribalist. The
latter is
decidedly not (he is an
un-repented
nationalist). Having
said this, I must also concede
that Awo had
some qualities that
are inherently
Buharistic....qualities of
patriotism, vision,
father figure, strength and
people (in
Awo's case, ``his
people") centredness. I
saw an
admirable sentimental
side of Awo when he came to
console us (the
great people of
Kano) over the passing of Mallam
Aminu in
1983. I used to
make a point to attend Awo's
rallies
whenever he came to
town...not to listen to what he
had to say,
but actually to see
his helicopter (we were young
pikins
then).
Hehehehhehehehehe.
Abba
Abba Gumel via googlegroups.com
Hehehehhehehe. My views on
Awo are
well-known. I have been espousing them for over a
decade....there are
some who would think he was not what some of us thought
he
was. We have
since learnt to agree to disagree on that.....but, I
think, history would show
that we were right (we always are, anyway...it is in
our
veins).
Awo would have been an excellent President....but he
wasn't electable because
of how he was perceived (rightly or wrongly) by the
rest
of us outside the
SW. Tinubu, on the other hand (who some call ``the
new
Awo") is
very much electable....because he, unlike Awo, was able
to
build a national
coalition (and I am yet to hear anyone labelling him as
a
tribalist.....he has
other labels though (some of which I am sure you would
be
quick to remind us
in your response), but being tribalist isn't one
of
them).
Abba
On 21 January 2016
at 12:50, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I
shall say onto the Awoist
to ``bring it on". Hehehehhehhehe. There
is
no comparison
between Awo and PMB. The former was a
tribalist.
The latter is
decidedly not (he is an un-repented
nationalist). Abba
Gumel
Abba
my
brother , what a gauntlet you have thrown. Let's
see
whether Afis and Ayo
will pick it up. Or they will leave it to the
intellectuals like Prof Aluko
and 'Leye Ige' or better still to the
grand
defender himself my oga at the
top Prof Adeniran Adeboye
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Bro. Joe,
My own view of Awo was based on what I personally
heard from some of
Awo's peers and what I have read from the
writings
(memoirs mostly) of some of
those peers of his. I also saw (with my own eyes)
his
actions during the
PPA/PPP alliance initiative. Those within the SW may
not
know how others
saw their hero....but he surely was seen by the
overwhelming majority outside
the SW in the way that we described. There are
lessons
to be
learnt....and I think the likes of MKO and Tinubu
made
this quite clear.
It is not about Awo bashing. It is about
presenting
history from the
vantage point of those of us in the know. No be
so-:)))?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016
at 12:59 PM, 'Ayo Ojutalayo' via
NaijaEvent <naijaevent@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Abba: Tribalism isn't about
diverting to one's tribe that
which belongs to another. Awo was a tribalist in
the
eyes of pretty much
all his peers outside the SW.
Ayo: I am happy
you cannot cite an
instance of Awo diverting to his
"tribe"
what should have gone to another
"tribe". What then is tribalism? So you
have
no evidence that Awo was a
tribalist? You only believe he was a tribalist
because
he "was a tribalist
in the eyes of pretty much all his peers
outside
SW"? That is why I
normally don't bother to defend allegation
of
tribalism against Papa
Awolowo. It is a baseless allegation. You are
guilty
of the same thing I
quarrel with people for concerning Buhari
being
"a tribalist in the eyes
of pretty much of Nigerians from the South".
You
must have read allegation
of tribalism against Buhari for visiting Oyo
State
Governor to complain
about harassment of Fulanis and their cows
while
traveling through Oyo
State. My response was that I expected Obasanjo
to do
the same if Yorubas
complain of being harassed any where outside SW.
That
is not tribalism.
That Sadauna preferred to remain as Premier of
Northern Region instead of
being the country's Prime Minister was to me,
not
tribalism even though
"in the eyes of millions of Nigerians it
was
tribalism". That Ojukwu led
Igbos in an attempt to secede from Nigeria did
not
mean that he was a
tribalist. Unlike what happens in developed
countries
where younger
generations form their own opinions of people
and
issues concerning other
ethnicities and races (in most cases disagreeing
with
their parents'
stereotypes, biases and prejudices), your
generation
in Nigeria
unfortunately just agreed with what was passed on
to
you by a biased and
prejudiced older generation.
Abba: The SW region is not any
better up in terms of
public education than the rest of the country...
there
isn't a single
school in the SW that matters in the global
scheme of
things (the entire
education system in the country has failed, so
the
notion of one region
doing any better than the others is, in my
estimation,
neither here nor
there).
Ayo: Abba,
this is not an academic
discussion, you know what I am talking about.
You
cannot compare literacy
level of SW with that of Northern Nigeria, and it
has
to do with what
Awolowo and his team did in the 50's and
the
60's. There have been public
confessions of professionals that said they would
not
have gone to school
or beyond primary school if not for Awo's
free
education. Such
individual's children who are also
professionals
today might not have gone
to school if their parents did not go to school.
There
have been
Easterners who made such confessions having
enjoyed
Awo's free education.
We don't need statistics to know that there
must
be more Doctors, more
Engineers etc from each of SW states than from
all the
Northern States
combined for example. Papa Awo foresaw this
situation
and wanted it
avoided with his education plan for the whole
country.
If he were a
tribalist, he would not have wished for the
whole
country, the "good life"
he provided for his
"tribe".
Abba: It isn't true that Awo
was resented by
folks North of the Niger because the Northern
elites
didn't want the North
to be educated (people keep attributing such to
the
elites, and they
couldn't be more wrong; there was a reason
why
people resisted western
education at some point in history....we should
not
try to re-write
history).
Ayo: Okay
Abba, why was Awo
resented by folks North of Niger? Why would he
not be
allowed to campaign
in Northern towns and cities? Why do first
class
educated people like Abba
still believe Awo was a tribalist without
evidence?
Please send me a personal copy of
your response as your
postings don't get to me for whatever
reason.
Ayo
Ojutalayo
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Sent: Friday, January
22, 2016 2:33
AM
Subject: Re:
[NIgerianWorldForum] Abba: Re: Awo's free
education
Gworo guy, Abba,
Trump is coming for your Moslem ass in USA? If
you
need a place to
hide, drive down to Dallas, you can hide in my shed
in
my backyard.
Make sure they don't find out about your
activities
at the Madrases in
Malaysia, you hear me!
Now, you said "Tribalism
isn't about diverting to
one's tribe that which belongs to another."
If
this is not tribalism at its
worst as practiced by Buhari, what is?
To be clear, the worst tribalism is stealing
from others, as in
"...diverting to one's tribe that
which belongs to
another."
Buhari is a damn tribalist, period! Look at what
is
happening in the
country today!
Stay tuned! Iguade
Sent from
my iPhone
On Jan 21, 2016, at 11:01 PM,
"Abba Gumel" <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ayo,
Tribalism isn't about diverting to
one's
tribe that which belongs to
another. Awo was a tribalist in the eyes of
pretty
much all
his peers outside the SW. The SW region is not
any
better up in
terms of public education than the rest of the
country... there isn't a
single school in the SW that matters in the
global
scheme of things (the
entire education system in the country has
failed, so
the notion of one
region doing any better than the others is, in
my
estimation, neither here
nor there). It isn't true that Awo
was resented by folks
North of the Niger because the Northern elites
didn't want the North to be
educated (people keep attributing such to the
elites,
and they couldn't be
more wrong; there was a reason why people
resisted
western education at
some point in history....we should not try to
re-write
history).
Abba
On 21 January 2016 at 20:02, Ayotade Ojutalayo ayoojuts@yahoo.com
[NIgerianWorldForum]
<NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Abba,
You said Papa Awolowo was a
tribalist. I am sure you
cannot cite an instant when he diverted to
his
"tribe" what should have
gone to another "tribe". Have you
read or
heard of how Gowon speaks of
Papa Awolowo with reverence whenever he
speaks
about Papa Awo? If
Papa Awo had been Prime Minister of Nigeria
for five
years only, would
Northern Nigeria be as educationally backward
as it
is today? You
probably were too young to know that the
resentment
of Northern
politicians for Awo was, among other things,
because
of the Northern
establishment leaders' determination to
shield
Northern Talakawas from
western education and western ways of life.
What
Papa Awolowo did for
Western Region as Premier, he wanted to do
for
Nigeria as Prime Minister
hence he resigned as Premier to become the
national
opposition leader.
What was tribalistic in that?
Because PMB is a frank, honest
and humble person, I
am sure PMB will not hesitate to say that
comparing
him with Papa Awo is
like comparing sleep with death and that he
was not
fit to untie shoe
lace of any of Papa Awo, Sadauna, Zik and
Abubakar
Tafawa
Balewa.
Ayo
Ojutalayo
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Sent: Thursday, January
21, 2016
2:25 PM
Subject:
[NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Awo's free
education
I shall say onto the Awoist to ``bring it
on".
Hehehehhehhehe. There is no comparison
between Awo
and PMB.
The former was a tribalist. The latter is
decidedly not (he is an
un-repented nationalist). Having said this,
I must
also concede
that Awo had some qualities that are
inherently
Buharistic....qualities
of patriotism, vision, father figure,
strength and
people (in Awo's
case, ``his people") centredness. I
saw an
admirable
sentimental side of Awo when he came to
console us
(the great people of
Kano) over the passing
of Mallam Aminu in 1983. I used to make a
point to attend
Awo's rallies whenever he came to
town...not to
listen to what he had to
say, but actually to see his helicopter (we
were
young pikins
then). Hehehehhehehehehe.
Abba
On 21 January 2016 at 12:11, Joe Attueyi
<topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In
other words, PMB's
civil servants are a lot smarter
(judging by
predisposition to make
typographical error) than Awo's.
Hehehehe! You want to inherit the annual
ritual of Awo vs Ojukwu/
Biafra debate? Turn it to PMB Vs Awo? De
ting
requires staying power
o-----year in; year out!
Joe
Sent from
my iPhone
On Jan 21, 2016, at 6:58 PM,
Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hehehehhehehhe. The write-up in the
document is poorly
punctuated. For instance, there ought to
be
commas after the word
``receive" and the figure
``1965". There should be a period
(full stop) after ``charge".
There should
be a comma after
``On behalf of the people". Need
I go
on? The
document is filled with
errors..... a lot
more than
the innocent single typo (of 2016
instead of
2015) in PMB's
letter.
In other words, PMB's civil
servants
are a lot smarter (judging
by predisposition to make typographical
error)
than
Awo's. Hehehhehehe. Na you
cause am
wo...you
should let the sleeping Ajegunlean dog
to lie
kampe wo.
Abba (having a bellyful laugh of
Bolajic
proportion)
On 21 January 2016 at 10:12, Joe
Attueyi
<topcrestt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When
there was a country........and civil
servants
could write error
free letters
Joe
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