Saturday, January 30, 2016

RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | Still on Awo

Can Obi Nwakanma shed light on : when Northern Element Progressive Union (NEPU) was formed; What were the Hausa names for NEPU?; When did Aminu Kano become the leader of NEPU?; When did NEPU become the political ally of the NCNC?; And in what way(s) did Awo, Sardauna and Balewa prove to be British Stooges in 1947?
 

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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | Still on Awo
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:16:25 +0000

Mallam Kano was 2nd Vice-President of the NCNC, the nationalist party, he was no tribalist. He as a bold fighter for the oppressed, and a bold, liberal critic of the revanchist politics of his school mates, Ahmadu Rabah and Balewa. Kano and Zaria were Zikist strongholds in the North, and were possibly the most politically liberal cities of the old North. But for the manipulation of the electoral system and the suppression of the Votes in the North, Mallam Kano may have led the Nationalist party to victory in the Northern region, and might have been the first premier of the North. He was quite prepared both politically, intellectually and temprementally for it. The British, as the archives are increasingly revealing, would never allow Mallam Kano or the Nationalists to govern in the North, and with that possibility, change the fate of postcolonial Nigeria. They needed their men in the North and the South: Awo, the Sarduana, and Balewa were British stooges who were central to the British aims, and were used in 1947 to subvert the anti-colonial Nationalist movement. Facts are sacred.
Obi Nwakanma





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Subject: Re: NigerianID | Still on Awo
 
Mallam Emeka,

I also read Awo's books and attended at least five of his rallies....maybe I also count as his ``associate".  I probably read everything written by (and on) Mallam Aminu Kano.  I surely wasn't his ``associate", but did learn a great deal just observing him (on and off the political stage).  What a great man he was.  As far as I know, no one has ever accused Mallam Aminu of tribalism....I stand to be corrected. 

Abba


On 28 January 2016 at 19:33, Chukwuemeka Okala <reukal@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

"Emeka you may know Awo, but you weren't his associate."  -  Prof. Abba Gumel

Comment:
Abba,
By all considerations, I was Awo's associate. I say, we were both in the same party (UPN) and we were both officials of the party, albeit at different levels. But the fact remains that I unusually interacted with Papa in that capacity much more than you can imagine. I did not just see him the way you saw Mallam Aminu Kano interacting with little children and his friends, I worked with him as a party official! I read his memoirs, I read his books and he physically addressed us occasionally. 

Awo was a vivacious nigerian nationalist and politician with unqualified and unstoppable gumption to see Nigeria on a global map of the world's greatest countries. Yes, Awo was not in politics to "play" politics, he was in politics to make Nigeria great. Such a person cannot be a tribalist!


Emeka Reuben Okala
London, UK
"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."   
 
 


On Thursday, 28 January 2016, 21:30, "Abba Gumel abba2007@gmail.com [NigerianID]" <NigerianID-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Hehehehhehehhe.  Nice one, Leye.  So, it is official....my bro. Joe the Pastor is now a ``tribalist"-:))).
The question is which tribe does he apply his tribalism for or on behalf for?  That is the (key) question.....and as our mutual buddy, Bolaji, would say, ``inquiring minds want to know"-:))).
 
Abba

On 25 January 2016 at 08:05, Leye Ige <ige.leye@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Sometimes it may actually take one tribalist to recognise another."--Joe Attueyi

Following your logic, since you regard Awo as a "tribalist"--you are also a tribalist, and by extension the "millions outside the SW" must also be tribalists; hence "tribalism" COULD NOT have been the reason for his being rejected.
Leye Ige


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 Date: Monday, January 25, 2016, 6:11 AM


  









       Pastor Okala,I cannot begrudge
 you your personal opinion / perception about
 Awo. 
 However you are
 shifting the goal posts.  Yours that I responded to was the
 argument that '.. The ones
 accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very epitome of
 tribalism'. As if
 there is something inherently wrong with a tribalist
 recognising a fellow tribalist. That is your argument that
 did not make sense to me. Sometimes it may actually take one
 tribalist to recognise another. 
 Joe


 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, 'Chukwuemeka
 Okala' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:


 "Let's
 for argument say I am a tribalist. I have not yet sought the
 presidency of Nigeria. I wish to seek the presidency of
 Nigeria. I now realise that being a tribalist stopped Awo
 from becoming president of Nigeria. And I say so---thereby
 reminding myself that I have to choose between being a
 tribalist and being Nigeria's president as the two are
 mutually exclusive ( Awo being proof positive). What exactly
 is wrong with that?"  -  Joe
 Attueyi
 Comment:I was the
 Campaign Strategist of the Youth Wing arm of the now defunct
 UPN in Rivers State (1978-9) and I worked very closely with
 Awo who was the Presidential Candidate of the party at the
 time. I make bold to say that there was no element of
 tribalism in him. All I saw in Awo was a very visionary and
 determined man who committed all in him in terms of skill,
 vision, money, experience, energy and scholarship to see
 Nigeria as Africa's leading light in the scheme of
 things.
 You may
 want to prove any other leader tribalism positive, but with
 Awo, that's a misnomer!
 And there
 you have it. (Apologies Bolaji Aluko).

 Emeka
 Reuben OkalaLondon,
 UK"Faith
 [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when
 reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going
 because it connects you to
 God."    
   




  On Monday, 25 January 2016, 10:18, "Joe
 Attueyi topcrestt@yahoo.com
 [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:



  













       There are certain arguments one reads
 hereabouts that don't make sense. One of them
 :
 The ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are
 the very epitome of
 tribalism! 
 Let's for argument say I am a
 tribalist. I have not yet sought the presidency of Nigeria.
 I wish to seek the presidency of Nigeria. I now realise that
 being a tribalist stopped Awo from becoming president of
 Nigeria. And I say so---thereby reminding myself that I have
 to choose between being a tribalist and being Nigeria's
 president as the two are mutually exclusive ( Awo being
 proof positive). What exactly is wrong with
 that?
 Joe
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:33 AM, 'Ayo
 Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:

 "The
  ones accusing Awo today of tribalism are the very epitome
 of tribalism!
  Even as we talk, they want to secede from Nigeria for no
 other reason
 than they cannot get on with their fellow Nigerians of other
 tribes.
 They feign marginalisation where there is none all in the
 name of
 secession, for no other purpose than that they want to keep
 their tribe
 and turn it to an independent nation of its own - even as
 their
 investments and over 90% of their collective wealth are
 scattered all
 over Nigeria. How else can one define tribalism?" . . .
 Emeka Okala
  
 Ayo
 Ojutalayo

 "The
 ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
 comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of
 challenge and controversy. " . . . Martin Luther King
 Jr




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  Subject: Re: Abba Gumel
 and Kwankwaso ungrateful to Yoruba : Re: Abba, what then is
 tr...







 Is
 there
 anything Abba said about Awo that is not known by 99% of
 Nigerians? Awo
 was a visionary, yes, but he was also a tribalist -- he was
 the father
 of the politics of dividing Nigerians along tribal
 lines -- a divisive
 mechanism in the Nigerian political process. Do not let
 Leye Ige and Ayo
 Ojutalayo, two experts at concerted flatulence expulsion,
 fool you with
 their agonizing yowls.
  
 By no
 means
 does the above suggest that the Northern leaders of the era
 (Sarduana and
 Balewa) were not equally tribalistic. They were tribal lords
 too, their only
 distinction with Awo was that they were straightforward. Awo
 was as cunning
 about his tribalism as are his worshippers of Ige and
 Ojutalayo today.

  
 Make una
 let
 man picking dey observe this snow, ojare!
  
 Nebukadineze
 Adiele
 Reject Religion;
 Relive Reason!






  

 In a message dated 1/23/2016 3:37:05 P.M. Eastern
 Standard Time,
 abujarock@gmail.com
 writes:






               See what
               Hausa Fulani mindset sounds like? and what
 they are now
               telling Yoruba.
               Abba Gumel the
 Professor and Senator kwankwaso the
               corrupt former Governor,
 have the guts to say
 these to Yoruba after the
               election of Buhari. Before the APC and ACN
 merger and  during
               the election they would
               not have made these ungrateful  statements.
 Talk about being

               ungrateful.


               http://www.nigeriadailynews.news/news/214637-shut-up-rabiu-kwankwaso-insults-yoruba-elders-over-secession-threat.html
               27/10/2015 05:50:0
 Mojisola

 Mba
               Senator Alhaji
 Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso, has
               asked elders of the Yorubaland to 'shut
 up' over their recent
               secession threat, following the kidnapping of
 a former Secretary
               to the Government of the Federation (SGF),
 Chief Olu Falae, and
               the perceived lack of true federalism in the
 nation's
               polity.According to THISDAY, Kwankwaso said
 the call by these
               elders was misguided and politically motivated
 stressing that no
               zone can be an island on its own, just as he
 remarked that what
               the Fulani herdsmen that were being asked to
 leave Yorubaland
               needed was education on how to go about their
 cattle rearing
               business. Unquote  Senator Alhaji Rabiu Musa

               Kwankwas


               On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Abba
               Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>

               wrote:






                 I shall say onto the Awoist to ``bring
 it on". 
                 Hehehehhehhehe.  There is no comparison
 between Awo and
                 PMB.  The former was a tribalist.  The
 latter is
                 decidedly not (he is an un-repented
 nationalist).  Having

                 said this, I must also concede that Awo had
 some qualities that
                 are inherently Buharistic....qualities of
 patriotism, vision,
                 father figure, strength and people (in
 Awo's case, ``his
                 people") centredness.   I saw an
 admirable sentimental
                 side of Awo when he came to console us (the
 great people of
                 Kano) over the passing of Mallam Aminu in
 1983.  I used to
                 make a point to attend Awo's rallies
 whenever he came to
                 town...not to listen to what he had to say,
 but actually to see
                 his helicopter (we were young pikins
 then).  
                 Hehehehhehehehehe.




 Abba
               Abba Gumel via googlegroups.com 
















   Hehehehhehehe.  My views on
 Awo are
   well-known.  I have been espousing them for over a
 decade....there are
   some who would think he was not what some of us thought he
 was.  We have
   since learnt to agree to disagree on that.....but, I
 think, history would show
   that we were right (we always are, anyway...it is in our
 veins).  
   Awo would have been an excellent President....but he
 wasn't electable because
   of how he was perceived (rightly or wrongly) by the rest
 of us outside the
   SW.   Tinubu, on the other hand (who some call ``the new
 Awo") is
   very much electable....because he, unlike Awo, was able to
 build a national
   coalition (and I am yet to hear anyone labelling him as a
 tribalist.....he has
   other labels though (some of which I am sure you would be
 quick to remind us
   in your response), but being tribalist isn't one of
   them).


   Abba


   On 21 January 2016
 at 12:50, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
 wrote:





       I
 shall say onto the Awoist
       to ``bring it on".  Hehehehhehhehe.  There is
 no comparison
       between Awo and PMB.  The former was a tribalist. 
 The latter is
       decidedly not (he is an un-repented
 nationalist).  Abba
       Gumel
 Abba
 my
     brother , what a gauntlet you have thrown. Let's see
 whether Afis and Ayo
     will pick it up. Or they will leave it to the
 intellectuals like Prof Aluko
     and 'Leye Ige' or better still to the grand
 defender himself my oga at the
     top Prof Adeniran Adeboye
 Sent from my
 iPhone








               Abba Gumel via googlegroups.com 
         2:29 PM (27 minutes ago)




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   Bro. Joe,


   My own view of Awo was based on what I personally
 heard from some of
   Awo's peers and what I have read from the writings
 (memoirs mostly) of some of
   those peers of his.  I also saw (with my own eyes) his
 actions during the
   PPA/PPP alliance initiative.  Those within the SW may not
 know how others
   saw their hero....but he surely was seen by the
 overwhelming majority outside
   the SW in the way that we described.   There are lessons
 to be
   learnt....and I think the likes of MKO and Tinubu made
 this quite clear. 
   It is not about Awo bashing.  It is about presenting
 history from the

   vantage point of those of us in the know.   No be
   so-:)))?



   On Fri, Jan 22, 2016
 at 12:59 PM, 'Ayo Ojutalayo' via
   NaijaEvent <naijaevent@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:







       Abba: Tribalism isn't about
 diverting to one's tribe that
       which belongs to another. Awo was a tribalist in the
 eyes of pretty much
       all his peers outside the SW. 
       Ayo: I  am happy
 you cannot cite an
       instance of Awo diverting to his "tribe"
 what should have gone to another
       "tribe". What then is tribalism? So you have
 no evidence that Awo was a
       tribalist? You only believe he was a tribalist because
 he "was a tribalist
       in the eyes of pretty much all his peers outside
 SW"? That is why I
       normally don't bother to defend allegation of
 tribalism against Papa
       Awolowo. It is a baseless allegation. You are guilty
 of the same thing I
       quarrel with people for concerning Buhari being
 "a tribalist in the eyes
       of pretty much of Nigerians from the South". You
 must have read allegation
       of tribalism against Buhari for visiting Oyo State
 Governor to complain
       about harassment of Fulanis and their cows while
 traveling through Oyo
       State. My response was that I expected Obasanjo to do
 the same if Yorubas
       complain of being harassed any where outside SW. That
 is not tribalism.
       That Sadauna preferred to remain as Premier of
 Northern Region instead of
       being the country's Prime Minister was to me, not
 tribalism even though
       "in the eyes of millions of Nigerians it was
 tribalism". That Ojukwu led
       Igbos in an attempt to secede from Nigeria did not
 mean that he was a
       tribalist. Unlike what happens in developed countries
 where younger
       generations form their own opinions of people and
 issues concerning other
       ethnicities and races (in most cases disagreeing with
 their parents'
       stereotypes, biases and prejudices), your generation
 in Nigeria
       unfortunately just agreed with what was passed on to
 you by a biased and
       prejudiced older generation.


       Abba: The SW region is not any
 better up in terms of
       public education than the rest of the country... there
 isn't a single
       school in the SW that matters in the global scheme of
 things (the entire
       education system in the country has failed, so the
 notion of one region
       doing any better than the others is, in my estimation,
 neither here nor
       there). 
       Ayo: Abba,
 this is not an academic
       discussion, you know what I am talking about. You
 cannot compare literacy
       level of SW with that of Northern Nigeria, and it has
 to do with what
       Awolowo and his team did in the 50's and the
 60's. There have been public
       confessions of professionals that said they would not
 have gone to school
       or beyond primary school if not for Awo's free
 education. Such
       individual's children who are also professionals
 today might not have gone
       to school if their parents did not go to school. There
 have been
       Easterners who made such confessions having enjoyed
 Awo's free education.
       We don't need statistics to know that there must
 be more Doctors, more
       Engineers etc from each of SW states than from all the
 Northern States
       combined for example. Papa Awo foresaw this situation
 and wanted  it
       avoided with his education plan for the whole country.
 If he were a
       tribalist, he would not have wished for the whole
 country, the "good life"
       he provided for his
 "tribe".


       Abba: It isn't true that Awo
 was  resented by
       folks North of the Niger because the Northern elites
 didn't want the North
       to be educated (people keep attributing such to the
 elites, and they
       couldn't be more wrong; there was a reason why
 people resisted western
       education at some point in history....we should not
 try to re-write
       history).

       Ayo: Okay
 Abba, why was Awo
       resented by folks North of Niger? Why would he not be
 allowed to campaign
       in Northern towns and cities? Why do first class
 educated people like Abba
       still believe Awo was a tribalist without
 evidence?


       Please send me a personal copy of
 your response as your
       postings don't get to me for whatever
     reason.


     Ayo

     Ojutalayo



  





     From:
 Wilson Iguade <iguade@hotmail.com>
 To: Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>;
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 Sent: Friday, January
 22, 2016 2:33
     AM
 Subject: Re:
     [NIgerianWorldForum] Abba: Re: Awo's free
 education





     Gworo guy, Abba,


     Trump is coming for your Moslem ass in USA? If you
 need a place to
     hide, drive down to Dallas, you can hide in my shed in
 my backyard. 
     Make sure they don't find out about your activities
 at the Madrases in
     Malaysia, you hear me! 


     Now, you said "Tribalism
 isn't about diverting to
     one's tribe that which belongs to another." If
 this is not tribalism at its
     worst as practiced by Buhari, what is? 


     To be clear, the worst tribalism is stealing
 from others, as in
     "...diverting to one's tribe that
 which belongs to
     another."


     Buhari is a damn tribalist, period! Look at what is
 happening in the
     country today!



     Stay tuned! Iguade


 Sent from
 my iPhone

 On Jan 21, 2016, at 11:01 PM,
 "Abba Gumel" <abba2007@gmail.com>
 wrote:





       Ayo,


       Tribalism isn't about diverting to one's
 tribe that which belongs to
       another.   Awo was a tribalist in the eyes of pretty
 much all
       his peers outside the SW.  The SW region is not any
 better up in
       terms of public education than the rest of the
 country... there isn't a
       single school in the SW that matters in the global
 scheme of things (the
       entire education system in the country has failed, so
 the notion of one
       region doing any better than the others is, in my
 estimation, neither here
       nor there).  It isn't true that Awo
 was  resented by folks
       North of the Niger because the Northern elites
 didn't want the North to be
       educated (people keep attributing such to the elites,
 and they couldn't be
       more wrong; there was a reason why people resisted
 western education at
       some point in history....we should not try to re-write
 history).




       Abba




       On 21 January 2016 at 20:02, Ayotade Ojutalayo ayoojuts@yahoo.com
 [NIgerianWorldForum]

       <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:


          





         Abba,


         You said Papa Awolowo was a
 tribalist. I am sure you
         cannot cite an instant when he diverted to his
 "tribe" what should have
         gone to another "tribe". Have you read or
 heard of how Gowon speaks of
          Papa Awolowo with reverence whenever he speaks
 about Papa Awo? If
         Papa Awo had been Prime Minister of Nigeria for five
 years only, would
         Northern Nigeria be as educationally backward as it
 is today? You
         probably were too young to know that the resentment
 of Northern
         politicians for Awo was, among other things, because
 of the Northern
         establishment leaders' determination to shield
 Northern Talakawas from
         western education and western ways of life. What
 Papa Awolowo did for
         Western Region as Premier, he wanted to do for
 Nigeria as Prime Minister
         hence he resigned as Premier to become the national
 opposition leader.
         What was tribalistic in that?


         Because PMB is a frank, honest
 and humble person, I
         am sure PMB will not hesitate to say that comparing
 him with Papa Awo is
         like comparing sleep with death and that he was not
 fit to untie shoe
         lace of any of Papa Awo, Sadauna, Zik and Abubakar
 Tafawa
         Balewa.



          
         Ayo
 Ojutalayo









         From:
 "Abba Gumel abba2007@gmail.com
 [NIgerianWorldForum]"
         <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>
 To: Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>

 Cc: Yahoo! Inc. <wharfsnake@yahoo.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January
 21, 2016
         2:25 PM
 Subject:
         [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Awo's free education




          





         I shall say onto the Awoist to ``bring it
 on". 
         Hehehehhehhehe.  There is no comparison between Awo
 and PMB. 
         The former was a tribalist.  The latter is
 decidedly not (he is an
         un-repented nationalist).  Having said this, I must
 also concede
         that Awo had some qualities that are inherently
 Buharistic....qualities
         of patriotism, vision, father figure, strength and
 people (in Awo's
         case, ``his people") centredness.   I saw an
 admirable
         sentimental side of Awo when he came to console us
 (the great people of
         Kano) over the passing
         of Mallam Aminu in 1983.  I used to make a
 point to attend
         Awo's rallies whenever he came to town...not to
 listen to what he had to
         say, but actually to see his helicopter (we were
 young pikins
         then).   Hehehehhehehehehe.




         Abba



         On 21 January 2016 at 12:11, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>

         wrote:





             In
 other words, PMB's
             civil servants are a lot smarter (judging by
 predisposition to make
             typographical error) than Awo's.
            


           Hehehehe! You want to inherit the annual
 ritual of Awo vs Ojukwu/
           Biafra debate? Turn it to PMB Vs Awo? De ting
 requires staying power
           o-----year in; year out!


           Joe


 Sent from
 my iPhone



 On Jan 21, 2016, at 6:58 PM,
 Abba Gumel <abba2007@gmail.com>

           wrote:





             Hehehehhehehhe.  The write-up in the
 document is poorly
             punctuated. For instance, there ought to be
 commas after the word
             ``receive" and the figure
 ``1965". There should be a period
             (full stop) after ``charge".  There should
 be a comma after
             ``On behalf of the people".  Need I go
 on?  The
             document is filled with errors.....   a lot
 more than
             the innocent single typo (of 2016 instead of
 2015) in PMB's
             letter.
             In other words, PMB's civil servants
 are a lot smarter (judging
             by predisposition to make typographical error)
 than

             Awo's.   Hehehhehehe.  Na you cause am
 wo...you
             should let the sleeping Ajegunlean dog to lie
 kampe wo. 



             Abba (having a bellyful laugh of Bolajic
             proportion)  


             On 21 January 2016 at 10:12, Joe Attueyi
 <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
 wrote:

             When
               there was a country........and civil servants
 could write error
               free letters

 Joe





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