Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the Matter of Wide Variations in Quotes for Certain Goods in Budget 2016 for Various Goods {Re: New Business opportunity -----Supplying Toyota Hilux van to Nigerian Govt MDAs

Fake Pastor Joe Attueyi,

You have an awfully short memory. I intend to nudge it. Not with a deserved slap at the back of your coconut head but with a loving and affectionate reminder.

Tell us about Jonathan's last budget. It was submitted after serious padding and the NASS added their own cut on it and passed it.

We did not hear a whimper from you then. Your pente-rascalism then supported the clueless and incompetent buffoon.

Today the Buhari government has introduced accountability and responsibility and transparency. All denied us by your incompetent buffoon. Instead of you to ride this your hubby horse of cynicism join hands with the government of positive change to interrogate the budget to ensure it is corruption-free.

Cheers and do not eat clandestinely while urging your flock to fast over Lent.

Cheers.

IBK

On 12 Feb 2016 09:39, "Mobolaji Aluko" <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:

Joe Attueyi:

You have to be a little more reflective, rather than continue these your fire-in-the-pants wailing about this budget.  It has already been established that there were some fishy insertions in the 2016 Budget that need corrections and possible punishment for corrupt mischief, but that does not mean that EVERY figure is fishy.

As Federal University Otuoke, we have a pool fleet of 45 vehicles or so purchased over the past five years,  about 20 of which are Hilux vans due to our terrain.  In fact, you can take it that the official vehicle of FUO is the Hilux - every faculty, department and administrative unit  that has justified need for transportation has one.   The other vehicles in our fleet are buses (including some Toyota coasters), water tankers, Toyota Camries (pool for Principal Officers), Peugeots, flat-bed trucks and ambulances.

So I know about the pricing of Hilux vans.

Now,internationally, with respect to Hiluxes, there are:

   (1) Three grades you can buy: (i)  single-cab  (four types)  (2)  Extra-cab (four types) and (3) Double-cab (eight types)  (all these grades are characterized as Workmate or SR)

   (2)  There are two transmission types  (i)  Manual  (ii)  Automatic  

   (3)  There are five colors (i) eclipse black  (ii) glacier white  (iii) graphite  (iv) nebula blue and 

           (v) silver sky

 In Nigeria, 

    (4)  specified are two additional "colloquial" types (i)  Shell-type, as in Shell-BP (apparently, Shell has provided Shell some specifications specifically for our Nigerian roads  (ii) non-Shell (import or Abu Dhabi(?) type (this one often has Arabic inscription in it.).

 

That means that theoretically there are 320 different types of Hilux Vans that are purchasable in Nigeria.  So for you to think that they will all be of the same price is ridiculous.

I can assure you that it is virtually impossible to buy any Hilux in Nigeria today below bN8 - 10,000, and if it is considered necessary to give it some security armoring, that could rise to N15-20,000.  That may or may not include VAT and WHT.  Add 10% insurance and another 2-5% for plate licensing, and the prices quoted below are not outrageous at all.

This is where government guidance and bulk or negotiated purchasing can come in.  Government may specify that you can only buy single-cab manual transmission Hiluxes - silver grey or eclipse black Shell-type -  using government money, and negotiate with TOYOTA-specified agents for certain government pricing.  Then ALL MDAs will quote the same price for the same car, minus shipping and handling depending on where they are.   Even the S@H can be negotiated on a regional basis. But where there is no set down policy for what you purchase, you cannot blame different MDAs for the different vehicles that they may select to propose, with the expectation that if their budget is cut down, at least they may be able to buy a lower-priced Hilux.

And there you have it.  Let us not take skepticism to a cynical level.

Bolaji Aluko

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, 'topcrest topcrest' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dr Kassim,

In continuation of my noble act of bringing business opportunities to the few of you in Diaspora who are 'not prone to crime', below please find the #BudgetofCorruption has in stock---forwarded to me by a friend

You are welcome 

Joe

SUMMARIZED FROM PREMIUM TIMES:

Different prices were quoted by different government establishments for a unit of Toyota Hilux van as follows:

N5,700,000 by the Nigerian Natural Medicine Development Agency;

N6,500,000 by Federal Government Girls' College Owerri;

N7,500,000 by the Ministry of Technology, Akure;

N8,855,000 by the Federal Government Girls' College, Gumi

N9,178,142 by Federal Government Girls' College Umuahia.

N10,000,000 by Federal Government College, Ezzamgbo, Abakaliki

N11,147,675 by the Federal Technical College Lassa;

N12,888,016 by the Ministry of Health;

N13,500,000 by the Federal Government College, Okigwe;

N15,970,515 by the Foreign Service Academy;

N26,600,000 by the Office of the National Security Adviser;

N27,273,523 by the Federal Technical College, Ikare; and

N27,660,000 by Federal Government Girls' College, Kazaure.

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