Tuesday, May 24, 2016

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the Matter of What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One {Re: Buhari Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta – UK

Folks,

We need to understand that this 'Niger Delta' term that we use as if someone just coined it out of nothing is strictly a description of a structural basin created by a series of geological activities that have occurred over time at the mouth of River Niger hence the name Niger Delta. 

We therefore cannot simply limit the term to a few states. In the same manner we cannot include any state ‎outside the geological formation. The phenomenon of a delta has its beginnings and it's boundaries. The end cannot be determined as it may continue to build on. 

Now to address the point of the ‎anonymous tipster: it is incredible not to have at least included Akwa Ibom State,  the largest oil/gas producer in his/her list. Of course the Niger Delta goes way beyond the States he mentioned. He/she also aluded to a confusion arising from the naming of the NDDC. The NDDC to my mind is aptly named as all the areas covered by its activities are restricted to areas within the geological Niger Delta. 

Anyway, I submit that it is erroneous to use the term Niger Delta and exclude state and areas where the formations from where oil/gas are produced belong to the same geological dynamics that created the delta.

To GSM, Anambra, which is principally a gas zone, is not part of the geological structure of the Niger Delta. It belongs to the Anambra Basin which is older than the Niger Delta. Likewise Lagos does not belong to the Niger Delta Basin. ‎The basin in which oil is found in Lagos is the Dahomey Basin, a geological structure very far from the Niger Delta. Both the Anambra and Dahomey Basins are older than the Niger Delta Basin. 

Finally it will help if we consider as follows (and please we need to picture this): the sediments of the Niger Delta from which oil and gas is produced underlie parts of Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Abia, Imo, Delta, Edo and Ondo States while it completely underlies Rivers and Bayelsa States (at least to the depths drilled as at today). 

Thanks

Sbaba

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Mobolaji Aluko
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 07:36‎
To: USAAfrica Dialogue
Reply To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the Matter of What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One {Re: Buhari Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta – UK


Godwin Maduabuchi Okeke:

Maybe this will help, from an "anonymous" tipster::

QUOTE

Methinks Niger Delta is indeed South-South consisting of Bayelsa, Rivers and Delta.  Confusion comes from the interpretation of Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC) that has delineated 9 states as their Niger Delta region that should be granted special development program. NDDC should really be Niger Delta and Oil Producing States Development Commission. Someone should coin out some acronym for this.

 

And there you have it!


UNQUOTE

Otherwise, I cannot help you any further


Bolaji Aluko


On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 'Godwin Okeke' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
No Prof, I cannot give you any space jowo. You are the one confusing issues. The simple question is; Is Anambra state part of the old Eastern region? Ofcourse, yes. Is the Niger Delta part of the old Eastern region? Ofcourse yes. Is Ondo state part of the old Eastern region where the Niger Delta was domiciled? Ofcourse NO! So how come it has now been smuggled in as part of the Niger Delta? I believe you know what you're doing. As per been a wordsmith or not, I know you're being diversionary. Moreover, I don't respond to insults from elders, especially in this forum. Your dragging in oil producing states in this matter is only being evasive. Again the explanation in reference to the Nigerian constitution does not explain that either. You have only fetched ant-infested firewood. So please admit the error and let's move on, otherwise I will have no other option than to believe you're out for some mischief.
GSM
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 5/23/16, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the Matter of What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One {Re: Buhari Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta – UK
 To: "USAAfrica Dialogue" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, May 23, 2016, 2:01 PM


 Godwin Okeke:
 Please do not confuse
 "oil-producing states" with so-called
 "Niger-Delta" or even "South-South"
 regions.   Anambra and Lagos are now "oil-producing
 states" - however little they may be producing for now
 -  as Borno (and my Ekiti) will be if and when oil is
 discovered in the Chad Basin (and Ode Basin).
 Until then, give us space,
 biko....
 And there you
 have it.

 Bolaji Aluko
 On Mon, May 23, 2016 at
 1:45 PM, 'Godwin Okeke' via USA Africa Dialogue
 Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 Thanks
 Shaba, for your intervention. But the question has still not
 been answered, because, if the Niger Delta was part of the
 old Eastern region, which Ondo was not, how come Ondo is now
 part of the Niger Delta? And according to your intervention,
 Anambra state (a core Eastern state, and part of the old
 Eastern region) where hydrocarbon has been discovered is
 not?. Is there any document where a change in the original
 meaning of Niger Delta was altered? Or could this be another
 politics of boundary adjustment? Or something else?

 GSM

 --------------------------------------------

 On Mon, 5/23/16, Olukayode Soremekun <nikesohe@hotmail.com>
 wrote:



  Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the Matter of
 What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One {Re: Buhari
 Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta – UK

  To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
 <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>

  Date: Monday, May 23, 2016, 8:54 AM









  Dear GSM,



  I have a contribution to make on the issue you have

  highlighted. First off, it is pertinent that I state that
 I

  am not holding brief for Bolaji.



  It is my belief that Bolaji was highlighting the states
 of

  the Niger Delta in which he was actively involved in
 the

  past five years and not stating that the Niger Delta
 had

  only four states.



  I do agree that the statement - "As you are fully
 aware, I spent

  early 2011 to early 2016 living in Bayelsa State, starting
 a

  new federal university,  and traveling several times

  between the four Niger-Delta region of Bayelsa, Rivers,

  Delta and Ondo states" - might be taken to mean

  that the Niger Delta is constituted of only the four

  mentioned states. For most, if not all, on this forum I
 am

  certain that it is known that the ND goes beyond the
 four

  states.



  However, my understanding of the term 'Niger
 Delta'

  is geological. It has come to also wear a robe of

  geo-political identification. If it is accepted that it
 is

  the geological term that best defines the Niger Delta
 then

  nine states clearly stand to be so described -



  Cross River

  Akwa Ibom

  Rivers

  Imo

  Abia

  Bayelsa

  Delta

  Ondo

  Edo



  Geo-politically the South South region had usually been

  taken as synonymous to the Niger Delta. This is
 erroneous.

  Ondo (SW) and Cross River (SS) States bound the ND in

  its western and eastern extremities respectively while
 Abia

  (SE) and Imo (SE) 'provide' its

  northern boundary.



  Note that some hydrocarbons have been found in Anambra

  State. Geologically, the make up of the sediments in
 which

  the hydrocarbons in Anambra are found may not fall
 within

  the formation age of the Niger Delta. I am not able to

  attribute the formation from which these hydrocarbons
 are

  found as I do not have information on this.



  Concluding therefore, all the nine states listed above

  constitute the ND.



  Thanks.



  Sbaba

   





  > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 13:14:25 +0000

  > From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com

  > To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com

  > Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the
 Matter

  of What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One
 {Re:

  Buhari Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta –
 UK

  >

  > Dear Prof Aluko,

  > I'm still waiting for clarification of your
 posting

  on  the Niger Delta.... It will do this list serve a
 great

  good to clarify what constitutes the Niger Delta,
 otherwise

  it would be irresponsible to mislead people in this
 forum.

  > GSM

  > --------------------------------------------

  > On Thu, 5/19/16, 'Godwin Okeke' via USA
 Africa

  Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>

  wrote:

  >

  >  Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the

  Matter of What is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part
 One

  {Re: Buhari Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta
 –

  UK

  >  To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com

  >  Date: Thursday, May 19, 2016, 12:21 PM

  >

  >  Prof. Sir,

  >  The Niger Delta region being referred to was part
 of

  the old

  >  Eastern region, and Ondo state was not part of
 it.

  Please,

  >  when was this map redrawn? Are the states mentioned
 by

  you

  >  the only states that presently constitute the
 Niger

  Delta in

  >  your own thinking?

  >  GSM

  >  --------------------------------------------

  >  On Wed, 5/18/16, Mobolaji Aluko

  <alukome@gmail.com>

  >  wrote:

  >

  >   Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - On the
 Matter

  of What

  >  is to be Done in the Niger-Delta - Part One {Re:

  Buhari

  >  Needs To Address Grievances In Niger Delta –
 UK

  >   To: "africanworldforum@googlegroups.com"

  >  <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>,

  >  "Joseph Igietseme"

  <jigietseme@gmail.com>,

  >  "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/CCID/NCPDCID)"

  <jbi8@cdc.gov>,

  >  "USAAfrica Dialogue"

  <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>

  >   Cc: "Stevek" <stevek940@yahoo.com>,

  >  "NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com"

  >  <naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>,

  >  "NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com"

  >  <nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com>,

  >  "naijaintellects"

  <naijaintellects@googlegroups.com>,

  >  "Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com"

  >  <Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>,

  >  "Nigerian ID"

  <NigeriaNID@yahoogroups.com>,

  >  "Odua" <omoodua@yahoogroups.com>,

  >  "yanarewa@yahoogroups.com"

  >  <yanarewa@yahoogroups.com>

  >   Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 6:50 PM

  >

  >

  >

  >   Joe

  >   Igietseme:

  >   As you are

  >   fully aware, I spent early 2011 to early 2016
 living

  in

  >   Bayelsa State, starting a new federal
 university,

   and

  >   traveling several times between the four
 Niger-Delta

  >  region

  >   of Bayelsa, Rivers, Delta and Ondo states. 

  Before 2011,

  >  I

  >   was extremely critical of Niger-Delta
 leadership,

  based

  >   largely on the gap that I felt between
 published

  revenues

  >  to

  >   the state governments (RELATIVE to other
 non-ND

  states)

  >  and

  >   reported progress on the ground.....the archives
 will

  show

  >   those criticisms of mine, and some of the flak
 I

  received

  >   from ND indigenes on these many forums - some
 names

  come

  >  to

  >   mind - some with even all kinds of threats and

  >   epithets.

  >   Having now

  >   lived in the ND, my criticisms of the state

  governments

  >   there are EVEN more dire - most have abdicated
 their

  >  primary

  >   responsibilities in favor of raw politics. 
 But

  now I

  >  also

  >   am aware that there is a major SOCIOLOGICAL
 problem

  in

  >  MOST

  >   of the communities BELOW that leadership that
 makes

  the

  >   problems there even MORE INTRACTABLE.  It

  reminds me of a

  >   drowning person:  that person MUST cooperate

  with you in

  >   the rescue, lest BOTH of you drown.

  >   I will have much more to write at

  >   some point, but here are a few pointers:

  >     (1)  the Elders and most

  >   educated in the ND communities have been pushed
 aside

  in

  >  the

  >   main, under accusation that they sold out in
 the

  past. 

  >  So,

  >   to save their lives and dignities, most often
 they

  just

  >  step

  >   aside and watch, in deference to

  >     (2)  the Younger and least

  >   educated ACTIVISTS (Youth wings, Community

  Development

  >   Committees, etc.) in those communities, most of
 them

  thugs

  >   and simply completely un-educated, and given to
 both

  >   intimidation and money-seeking.  Completely

  unreasonable

  >   roadblocks are put even in activities that
 will

  benefit

  >  the

  >   community.

  >     (3)

  >    the general communities that are victims of

  both

  >   government neglect and community activist
 deceit,

  coupled

  >   with a sense of ENTITLEMENT without
 RESPONSIBILITY

  that is

  >   immeasurably immature.

  >

  >   Let me

  >   stop here for now, but my point is that there is
 a

  lot of

  >   soul-searching to be done in the Niger-Delta
 if

  anything

  >  is

  >   to change soon - and before Buhari is called

  >   in.

  >   And there you have

  >   it.

  >

  >

  >   Bolaji

  >   Aluko

  >

  >

  >

  >   On Wed, May 18, 2016 at

  >   4:22 PM, Joseph Igietseme

  <jigietseme@gmail.com>

  >   wrote:

  >   Stevek,You cannot mix up all these issues you

  alluded

  >   to below;First, JUI hopes he did not
 misunderstand

  you

  >   below; but if you believe [or harbor the
 slightest

  notion]

  >   that there is no legitimate Niger-Delta

  socioeconomic

  >   justice agitation or environmental issue that
 has

  >  escalated

  >   into crisis, you must live in Mars! Even the

  international

  >   community has independently verified the
 situation

  and

  >   crisis in the Niger Delta. Or are you suggesting
 that

  we

  >   should be in Iraq, Somalia, Maiduguri, Syria
 or

  >  Afghanistan

  >   before we can accept that the issues and crises
 there

  are

  >   legit? Na wa for you oo!Secondly, JUI believes
 that

  a

  >   more close engagement of the Niger Delta people
 by

  the

  >  Feds

  >   [borrowing a leaf from late Prez
 Yar'Adua's

  >   play-book], rather than this military
 intimidation

  tactic,

  >   will reveal to the people and communities that
 the

  Fed

  >  Govt

  >   is already taking care of them through the 13%

  derivation

  >   and establishment of the Niger Delta ministry;
 these

  >   people should be closely monitored for how they
 spend

  that

  >   money in community development, environmental

  clean-ups,

  >  and

  >   people's empowerment. These are very
 measurable

  >   parameters.Lastly, JUI thinks you should be
 more

  >  reflective

  >   in your interactions on this forum by now; doing
 the

  same

  >   Injan-kiri day-and-nite, by finding out what is
 wrong

  in

  >   other people, rather than telling us what you
 believe

  is

  >   right, has caused too much distractions on
 this

  forum. We

  >   should do better as we age and acquire wisdom!
 Take

  care.

  >

  JUI​---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​

  >   On Wed,

  >   May 18, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Stevek

  <stevek940@yahoo.com>

  >   wrote:

  >   "You cannot go and

  >   intimidate a man in his compound because he
 wants

  >   socioeconomic justice for the economic
 exploitation

  of his

  >   compound and the survival environment." -

  >   JUI

  >   JUI,

  >   You have good intentions but you miss issues

  >   by a country mile.

  >   What socioeconomic justice

  >   are you talking about? What is the favored 13%

  favored

  >   derivation for the SS states about about? How
 much of

  that

  >   gets to these people that you think are
 destroying

  federal

  >   government property and polluting the environment
 for

  all

  >  in

  >   the region for 'socioeconomic justice for
 the

  economic

  >   exploitation'?

  >   First, how do you know that these miscreants

  >   are doing the damage they are doing to their
 own

  >   neighborhood and country for the reasons you
 have

  stated?

  >  In

  >   fact, how do you even know that they are
 N'Delta

  >   indigenes? 

  >   Please, don't be like

  >   that Pronto!!! 'eye doctor' who
 diagnoses

  people

  >   from a distance for unknown ailments just because
 he

  wants

  >   to sabotage the Buhari administration in order
 for

  the

  >   Ebelechukwu to come back and restore his

  cancelled

  >  illegal

  >   contracts, claiming he is familiar with the

  aspirations of

  >   the N'Deltan just because he roamed about
 there

  for a

  >   little while 30 years ago!

  >

  >   StevekMitchellville,

  >   MarylandThe most dangerous trend in the

  >   world today is the growing awareness of the
 common

  man

  >   - Zbigniew Brzezinsky

  >   1978A wise man proportions his beliefs with

  >   evidence

  >   - David Hume

  >

  >

  >         

  >   From:

  >   "Joseph Igietseme JIGIETSEME@GMAIL.COM

  >   [NigerianID]"

  <NigerianID-noreply@yahoogroups.com>

  >    To: "Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   "NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   African GM

  <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>;

  >   "NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   Nigerian ID <NigeriaNID@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   "edo_global@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <edo_global@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   "OKONKWONETWORKS@googlegroups.com"

  >   <OKONKWONETWORKS@googlegroups.com>;

  >   Odua <omoodua@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   FORUM IGBO WORLD FORUM IGBO WORLD

  <igboworldforum@yahoogroups.com>

  >

  >   Cc: "EKITIPEOPLESVOICE@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <EKITIPEOPLESVOICE@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   "yanarewa@yahoogroups.com"

  >   <yanarewa@yahoogroups.com>;

  >   Naija Observer

  <NaijaObserver@googlegroups.com>

  >    Sent: Monday, May 16,

  >   2016 12:16 AM

  >    Subject: NigerianID |

  >   Re: [Raayiriga] Buhari Needs To Address
 Grievances

  In

  >  Niger

  >   Delta – UK

  >     

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  >         JUI will like to

  ENDORSE the

  >  advice and

  >   cautionary note being sounded by the British

  Foreign

  >   Minister, Philip Hammond, on the brewing crisis
 in

  the

  >  Niger

  >   Delta. You cannot go and intimidate a man in
 his

  compound

  >   because he wants socioeconomic justice for the

  economic

  >   exploitation of his compound and the survival

  environment.

  >   In fact, like Yar'Adua did, Buhari

  >   should:1.

  >   Take an audit of the progress made in the
 Marshall

  Plan

  >  for

  >   the Niger Delta since 2008 when Yar'Adua
 signed

  an

  >   accord that was implemented by Jonathan; the
 accord

  >  covered

  >   community development, environmental clean-ups,
 and

  >   education/welfare and human capital

  >   development; 2. Find out if new or old
 militants

  are

  >  involved

  >   in these new attacks in the Niger Delta, and who
 the

  new

  >   leaders are; 3. Investigate whether the new

  leaders and

  >   groups have legitimate claims vis-a-vis the
 previous

  >  issues

  >   in the Niger Delta that should have been
 tackled

  >   significantly by now.

  >   Again, the saying that "a

  >   stitch in time, saves nine" should be the
 right

  path of

  >   wisdom in handling these brewing terror wahallas
 in

  any

  >   society. Take care.

  >

  JUI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On

  >   Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Idowu Awosika

  idowubobo@gmail.com

  >   [Raayiriga] <Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>

  >   wrote:

  >

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  >         

  >         Buhari Needs To

  >   Address Grievances In Niger Delta –
 UKChannels

  >   Television. Updated May 15,

  >   2016 The swamps of the southern Niger

  >   Delta have been hit by a series of attacks on

  pipelines

  >  and

  >   other oil and gas facilities that have reduced

  Nigeria's

  >   output by 300,000 barrels a day, closed a
 major

  export

  >  port

  >   and two refineries.

  >   Nigeria has moved in army

  >   reinforcements to hunt the militants but
 British

  Foreign

  >   Minister, Philip Hammond, said that Buhari needs
 to

  the

  >  deal

  >   with the root causes because a military

  confrontation

  >  could

  >   end in "disaster".

  >   Crude sales from the Delta account

  >   for 70 percent of national income in
 Africa's

  biggest

  >   economy but residents, some of whom sympathize
 with

  the

  >   militants, have long complained of poverty.

  >   "It's obviously a major

  >   concern," Hammond told reporters on the
 sidelines

  of a

  >   regional security conference in Abuja when
 asked

  about the

  >   situation.

  >   "The idea

  >   that your answer is by moving big chunks of
 the

  Nigerian

  >   Army to the Delta simply doesn't work," he
 said,

  >  adding

  >   that the Army did not have the capacity while

  fighting

  >  Boko

  >   Haram jihadists in the north. "It won't deal
 with

  the

  >   underlying issues."

  >   "Buhari has got to show as a

  >   president from the north that he is not ignoring
 the

  >  Delta,

  >   that he is engaging with the challenges in the

  Delta,"

  >   Hammond said.

  >   Buhari

  >   is a Muslim from the north who has not visited
 the

  >  Christian

  >   Delta since taking office a year ago,
 something

  >  highlighted

  >   by a militant group, the Niger Delta Avengers,
 which

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  >   claimed a string of attacks on pipelines.

  >   The group has warned oil firms to

  >   leave the region within two weeks and says it
 is

  fighting

  >   for independence for the Delta. It has said it
 wanted

  a

  >   greater share of oil revenues and an end to
 oil

  >   pollution.

  >   The attacks

  >   have driven Nigerian oil output to near a 22-year
 low

  and,

  >   if the violence escalates into another
 insurgency,

  it

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  >   cripple output in a country facing a growing

  economic

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  >   Buhari, who

  >   has not commented about not visiting the Delta,
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  >   a multi-million dollar amnesty signed with
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  >  2009

  >   but upset them by ending generous pipeline

  protection

  >   contracts. He also cut the amnesty budget by
 around

  70

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  >   unemployed.

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