Ken, the Arab Spring was no spring at all, it was the winter of discontent blowing from the west. And yes, we build historical knowledge from all speeches, sober; drunk with elation, or even thoughtless, during political campaigns especially, and in off-seasons also. Political speeches may gather dust, but when we harvest and clean them up, they become the true nuggets of history.
Obi Nwakanma
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:27 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - BREAKING: Zimbabwe's President Mugabe Resigns
We don't build historical knowledge on the political speeches made during campaigns.
What I object to here is the implied disparagement of the importance of the uprising, the Arab Spring, one of the great courageous movements of modern times.
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>
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Date: Monday 27 November 2017 at 21:33
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - BREAKING: Zimbabwe's President Mugabe Resigns
We came. We saw. He died.
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:48 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - BREAKING: Zimbabwe's President Mugabe Resigns
This notion articulated here of how ghaddafi was killed strikes me as nonsense. Why would someone post something like this? who would be in agreement, I wonder?
The u.s. intervened, as did france, after the arab spring had given rise to revolts across Libya, after ghadaffi began killing Libyans to the best of his ability.
A reasonable discussion might question the wisdom of the intervention. I am not, not at all, convinced that intervening on the side of the rebels against the dictator was wrong. The numbers who died were, and are, still relatively small. The oppressive regime of yet another autocrat ended.
The negatives are there to be debated. But there is nothing to debate when these events are reduced to empty sound bites.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Raphael Njoku <njoku08@gmail.com>
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Date: Monday 27 November 2017 at 14:15
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - BREAKING: Zimbabwe's President Mugabe Resigns
Our Africa's spokesman,
You tell me where else in this world people like Clinton will fly in, kill the leader of a country and fly out to celebrate and laugh about it, Only in Africa. And it is because Africans applaud these forms of outrageous acts. Crimes against humanity!!! Our Africa's spokesman, can you also tell me just one instance where on the face of the earth African military have participated in the killing of their 'WONDERFUL AND PERFECT" LEADERS??
Let my people think.
"The moment you start insulting or disgracing yourself, others will join you."
- Mamman Vatsa
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:
Correction
'We came, we saw, he died.' H. Clinton
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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