Correct geography is.....?
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 2:13 PM Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdullah@gmail.com> wrote:
Fictional geography!--On Aug 26, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:Farooq Kperogi:Thanks for informing,/reminding us that you are of Bariiba/Baatonu ethnic group, who, along with the Boko, Hausa (?) and other peoples, made up the Borgu Empire of yore, and today make up that portion of Niger State that has a more recently formed Emirate of Borgu and an even more recently formed Jagsban "chieftaincy" title that was conferred on Tinubu, whose friend of the old Senate era, the current Emir, is actually Boko, not Bariba as I wrongly conveyed, the single error that I believe that I made by making all Borgu only Bariba. I would be hard-pressed though to believe, like you wrote, that the Oyo Yoruba dealt ONLY with the Bariba and not also with the Boko of old Borgu Empire.Have a good Sunday.Bolaji Aluko
On Saturday, August 25, 2018, <farooqkperogi@gmail.com> wrote:Lots of historical and factual inaccuracies here. I belong to what you call the "Bariba" people. Our endonym is Baatonu (singular) or Baatombu (plural), but I'll stick with the singular in this response.The old Borgu empire was a pluri-ethnic, confederate polity and was peopled by many other ethnic groups apart from the Baatonu. Tinubu was knighted "jagaban Borgu" (a hitherto non-existent title) by the Boko people in New Bussa in present-day Niger State, not by the Baatonu (or what you call Bariba) people. The Baatonu are found in western Kwara State (in Baruten LGA) and in northern and central Benin Republic. They had nothing to do with Tinubu's title.So there is no connection between Tinubu's made-up title and the Baatonu (Bariba) people. The late Haliru Dantoro, who was Tinubu's personal friend when they were both senators in IBB's stillborn Third Republic, invented a title for Tinubu when he became emir. "Jagaba" is not even a Boko word; it's a Hausa word. Bussa people are not Hausa people. Most importantly, though, the Borgu people that people of the old Oyo Empire related with were the Baatonu people, not the Boko people whose emir chose to bear the misleading title of "Emir of Borgu" fairly recently (Borgu never had and still doesn't have one supreme leader because it was a mutli-ethnic confederate empire) and conferred the fraudulent title of "Jagaba" to Tinubu.FarooqFarooq Kperogi, PhD
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On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 4:07 PM Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2018
Subject: Re: NigerianID | Is Omarosa's Maternal Heritage Nigerian?
To: Imperia Merchant <imperial_ltd@yahoo.com>
Cc:Imperial:History does not lie. When for example, Tinubu prides himself as Jagaban Borgu, he has a sense of history. People forget that the Bariba people of Borgu Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bariba_people) once fought against the Yoruba of Oyo Empire, but at some later time assisted the Yoruba to fight against the Tapa of Nupe Kingdom (mainly in modern-day Niger State, but also Kwara North and Kogi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nupe_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nupe_language), all of who are/were neighbors. Here is a map of West African kingdoms in 1625:<image.png>If one were to superimpose the Nigerian portion of that map on these Nigerian stateshttps://www.nigerianmuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Nigeria-Map-36-States-plus-Abuja-500x436.jpg<image.png>as well as on the followung map showing the Niger-Benue confluence:<image.png>One will then get a good picture of why you write below that: "(they) claim to be Yoruba from the north (or northern Yoruba ) jbecause the present Kwara and Kogi states were once part of the old Northern Region . The capital of old Yoruba kingdom ( the defunct Oyo Empire ) was located somewhere around the present Kogi State".. In fact, if you draw a straight line through my Ekiti State, you will find that many parts of Ekiti State are more "Northern" than certain parts of Kogi, Benue and Taraba States. Therefore we should make a distinction between the "political North" and the "geographic North" of Nigeria.Read the fascinating history in:And there you have it.Bolaji AlukoOn Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 1:22 AM Imperial Merchant Trust Ltd <imperial_ltd@yahoo.com> wrote:WharfNon of the three politicians ever denied being Yoruba but they claim to be Yoruba from the north (or northern Yoruba ) jbecause the present Kwara and Kogi states were once part of the old Northern Region .The capital of old Yoruba kingdom ( the defunct Oyo Empire ) was located somewhere around the present Kogi State up till early 19th century .Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Aug 2018, at 11:04 PM, 'Wharf A. Snake' via Corporate Nigeria <corporate-nigeria@googlegroups.com> wrote:Saraki, Sunday Awoniyi, Dino Melaye say they are not Yoruba but Buska, Ogbeni Dipo, Alagba Afis say they are. Now they have claimed the Itshekiri too. Revanchist they all are.Ejo ni Mushin - PrinceSent from my iPhoneYes o, we relate very well as cousinsWe have so many alliances and coalition with ItsekiriSent from my iPad
On Aug 23, 2018, at 9:26 PM, 'DIPO ENIOLA' via Corporate Nigeria <corporate-nigeria@googlegroups.com> wrote:A good number of Itsekiri people think they are Yoruba. Some are active in OPC.The Oha 1--
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