Monday, September 10, 2018

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: THOUGHT FOR TODAY:. On



Biko:

There you have it is all I can say from these 101 translations.    Thieves, robbers, outlaws,  criminals, bandits, rebels, revolutionaries,  insurrectionists, murderers - bad guys both!

But one became penitent on the Cross next to Christ and landed in Paradise - a prime example of unbaptized, unmerited grace!

There is hope yet for everybody ..


Bolaji Aluko

On Monday, September 10, 2018, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
You may be right that King Jim was not alone in the fear and disgust at rebels and revolutionaries. A lot of the versions that called them thieves, outlaws or robbers may be direct plagiarism of KJV.

The New International Versions call them "rebels against Rome" or simply "revolutionaries". The American revolution may have something to do with that preference

See


Biko


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Mobolaji Aluko


Biko:

Virtually all the versions that I have now looked at call the two persons on the Cross  with Christ  "criminals" or thieves, but nonrevolutiona (Matthew 27:38Mark 15:27–28,32Luke 23:33John 19:18),  They must be distinguished from Barrabas ("the notable prisoner...who caused insurrection and murder while at it". Mathew 27:16, Mark 15:7,  Luke 23:18-19,) that was released by Pontius Pilate in place of Jesus Christ. Only John 18:40 calls Barrabas a robber.

See:



And there you have it.


Bolaji Aluko


On Monday, September 10, 2018, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Mob

Check other versions of the story. Only King James version called them Robbers of the Cross. Other versions called them rebels or revolutionaries. 

King James may have had a grudge against rebels for they chopped off the head of his grandfather, Charles.

Biko


On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM
"......but his graciousness in defeat, by Obama,  and his courage to reject Trumpism, endeared him to many, in the end." (Gloria Emeagwali)

So, this was what made him the symbol of American greatness?

By the way, weren't most of those factors listed present in the electoral victories of others?

CAO.


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