Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Africans and African Americans

Waow,......intellectuals..... idleness at its highest influencing nothing.

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From: Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Africans and African Americans

Biko:

You make a distinction between intellectuals and the masses. 

Do you mean to say scholars instead of intellectuals ?

The masses are intellectuals! Emotional intelligence is worth more than a PhD.

The Igbo venture capitalists at Alaba market know more about business than MIT- trained "intellectuals"

Ibn Khaldun, which only a few have read, warned us to make distinctions more carefully.

TF

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On May 31, 2019, at 5:01 AM, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Tough questions,

Intellectuals may help to answer those questions but so also will be masses. My suggestions go beyond academic institutions to include activism ion our communities towards the United Republic of African States. There will still be problems even after unity but we will have the strength to solve more of those problems. Unity is neither uniformity nor unanimity but a little goes a long way - Cabral.

Biko

On Friday, 31 May 2019, 15:33:32 GMT+12, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

Biko:

I apologize as I did not frame the question with any level of intelligence.

How does your recommendation help Rosalind? This is how I should have framed it.

You and I as scholars tend to exaggerate our sense of importance. The academy deludes us into thinking that we are relevant. If we were why do things remain the same or get worse?

What I am looking for is how academic reorganization that you stated so brilliantly solve Rosalind's key question. Molefi Asante is a great friend of mine and I have participated in his impressive annual programs.

Thus, if we mount programs the way you mentioned, how does that affect street politics?

Students listen to us, receive their grades and move on.

TF

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On May 31, 2019, at 4:10 AM, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Kikiwin,

You no go provoke me today o. I beg, go and sleep and leave the forum to take care of itself for once. I actually agree with everything you said, so you no go decline this post. 

I admired your program when I participated in the evaluation. I liked the way you strategized to secure huge funding from the administration and the way you shared the resources with African and African American Studies. Congratulations on attaining departmental status. Many others remain programs of Africana Studies but a departmental status is always the golden fleece.

The academy remains a conservative space but the few critical voices that have managed to thrive make all the differences because they offer something that the majority are afraid to offer. There will always be struggles for ideas and priorities in Africana Studies as in every field of study. 

The launch of Africana Studies across Africa is something we can accomplish overnight without much additional costs. Then let us allow a thousand flowers to blossom - the careerists and the scholar-activists will have their say, the western servant scholars and the Afrocentrists, the nationalists and the Pan Africanists. History will justify the relevance.

Do Not Agonize, Organize!

Biko

On Friday, 31 May 2019, 14:18:45 GMT+12, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

Biko:

I see this as your main thrust:

"transforming all the distinguished Centers of African Studies around the world into Centers of Africana Studies under the paradigm of creative, critical, and Africa-centered scholar-activism at home and abroad"

Can you expand on the above? I think you once evaluated our program at UT Austin which is now a Department.

Opinions are divided about this:

1. The Asante-Gates model

2. The Title six model

3. The mainstream model

4. The Africology model, etc.

In general, the integration of African studies and African American Studies remains unsuccessful in many places. I have served as an official evaluator like you but I have not seen the integration in many places.

Also bear in mind that the current recruitment of young Africans into the academy is to turn them into careerists. Careerists write about Africa for Western consumption, they seek non-African validation, they don't publish in black-oriented journals and they have been deceived to accept ranking over and above relevance. We can see their contributions in terms of advancing strictly academic issues but not of nation building. Thus one can now become a full professor of Africa but there is actually nothing for Africans in the scholarship.

TF

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> On May 31, 2019, at 2:57 AM, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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> transforming all the distinguished Centers of African Studies around the world into Centers of Africana Studies under the paradigm of creative, critical, and Africa-centered scholar-activism at home and abroad

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