Monday, September 30, 2019

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: THEY CALL US MONKEYS.

You are absolutely correct, the hate, racism, and ignorance shown by the former president still lives shameful, but proud in the country till now. The issue of racial superiority has been a problem since the institution of the country. It is the ideology on what the nation was founded on. The policies put in place right now by the current sitting president coincides with the views of president reagan. So, yes indeed this has never been a dead issue, and was there way before Reagan's time.

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 6:54:29 AM UTC-5, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju wrote:
segun,

it cant be a dead issue bcs it represents attitudes that still resonate in todays US with the recurrent killings of black men by police, high levels of black incarceration and the hate speech directed agst africans by the current US President plus discriminatory visa policies demonstrated agst Africans by the US and UK.

The Jews keep vigilant over anti-semitism bcs it is not fully dead and its has been a fundamental shaper of history.

why should afriancs consider incidents of racism at any point in history dead issues bcs an aplogy was made? the apology cant erase the historical fact and significance of its occurrence.

there is also a world of difference yoruba attitudes to westerners before and after the conquest of yorubaland by western colonialism and that of racist westerners to black people whom they enslaved for centuries and colonised after that.

im puzzled you are making such an unsustainable equation of race centred attitudes.

toyin

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 01:41, segun ogungbemi <segun...@gmail.com> wrote:
His daugher has apologized for that remark. In my Ph.D. dissertation at The University of Texas at Dallas, I reported that the Yoruba called white people brown monkeys. I think we should not continue to trivialize a dead issue.  
Segun Ogungbemi. 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 7:08 PM Spencer Soosman <spencer...@gmail.com> wrote:
After reading this article, I was shocked. Growing up near the Ronald Reagan Library I was well aware of President Reagan. For a man who fought for the Berlin Wall to be torn down to be found saying a comment like this is shocking. To refer as Africans as "monkeys" is an awful thing to do regardless if it was caught on tape or not. I also find it interesting that the tapes were not ruled by the court until 2013, well after President Reagan's death. Therefore, a comment like this in a way goes under the rug.  

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:02:18 PM UTC-5, Lance Hanse wrote:

This article starts with giving some background information on how Naftali, a Harvard professor acquired the tapes. Originally the tapes were withheld to protect President Reagan's privacy but when he died in 2004 he lost that right and the tapes have since been released.  Hearing this is very unsettling to me as it portrays the former leader of the United States as a pretty significant racist. Even though this was in a different time, where joking about racism was a common practice, the president has a moral right the respect everybody he represents equally. Furthermore, the fact that this is just now being released so much time later could potentially ruin his legacy of being the president to look to as a success. Most republicans view President Reagan as the best President the United States has ever had. Now people will be reevaluating that opinion and even possibly changing some opinions they have today in our current political system.


On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 12:21:24 PM UTC-5, anthony.a.akinola wrote:

Reagan calls Africans 'monkeys' in newly released tape

Published July 31, 2019
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American late ex-President Ronald Reagan

Late American President Ronald Reagan called African monkeys
In what appears to be a vendetta against Africans who voted in support of China's membership of the United Nations, ex-President Ronald Reagan has been uncovered as having referred to African delegates to the UN as "monkeys" who feel "uncomfortable wearing shoes."

Reagan, then the Governor of the State of California, made the remarks in October 1971 while speaking with then President Richard Nixon.

In a tape recording released by the Atlantic on Tuesday, Reagan is heard telling Nixon, "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did."

"Yeah," Nixon interjected.

Reagan then said: "To see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"

Nixon then laughs heartily.

The tape was submitted as a part of write-up for the Atlanticby Clinical Associate Professor of History at New York University, Tim Naftali, who said though the conversation was recorded by Nixon, it later became a part of the Nixon Presidential Library, which he (Naftali) directed from 2007 to 2011.

Explaining the history of the tape and how he came about the recording, Prof. Naftali said, "When the National Archives originally released the tape of this conversation in 2000, the racist portion was apparently withheld to protect Reagan's privacy.

"A court order stipulated that the tapes be reviewed chronologically; the chronological review was completed in 2013.

"Not until 2017 or 2018 did the National Archives begin a general re-review of the earliest Nixon tapes.

"Reagan's death, in 2004, eliminated the privacy concerns.

"Last year, as a researcher, I requested that the conversations involving Ronald Reagan be re-reviewed, and two weeks ago, the National Archives released complete versions of the October 1971 conversations involving Reagan online."

Describing the events that led to the Reagan outburst, Naftali wrote: "When the UN took its vote to seat a delegation from Beijing instead of from Taiwan in 1971, members of the Tanzanian delegation started dancing in the General Assembly.

"Reagan, a devoted defender of Taiwan, was incensed, and tried to reach Nixon the night of the vote. Reagan despised the United Nations, which he described as a "kangaroo court" filled with "bums," and he wanted the U.S. to withdraw from full participation immediately."

The history professor also claimed that then President Nixon had ordered his deputy national security adviser, Al Haig, to cancel any future meetings with any African leader who had not voted with the United States on Taiwan, even if they had already been scheduled to meet with him.

Prof. Tim Naftali wrote against the backdrop of what he described as "presidential racism," which, he argues, has been brought back into the headlines because of the events of the "past month" in America.

Already, Democrats who are currently working assiduously to regain the White House from Republican President Donald Trump, regularly criticise the American president for what they call his "racism."

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