--Thanks again, Cornelius.Yes. nearly all my teachers (mostly Irish nuns and priests drilled the love of learning, reading, and writing into me — especially in relation to the Gospels, Latin, math, literature (African, British, ISAmerican) and later science and philosophy}. I also became an altar boy.Intellectually, I ceased losing confidence in the Pan African movement when it became "Pan-Africanism" (aka an arm of Globalism, especially the Davos variety). But I believe in "internationality" ("internationalities"). The Lumumba observation or reminder remains true significantly: we produce what we don't consume and we consume what we don't produce.OohayOn Thursday, March 27, 2025, 8:47 AM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr Oohay,
Many thanks - that was generosity writ large, sharing, daring to share so much of you, with us, such a panoramic view, so many different strands, some revelations, so much on my plate
I'm responding to just that little Catholic segment of your intro - will address the liberalism issue and your follow up later. However, you have not yet shared with us - directly - your thoughts about Pan-Africanism as a political philosophy and a movement. For me, from that point of view - Pan-African consciousness, of course we have "more in common than what perhaps divides us" and "us" would include good dudes such as the Prophet Moses on whom was conferred the mantle of Prophethood when he was a hoary 80 years of age, an office that he discharged as the Almighty's appointed, until he passed on to the Hereafter when he was 120 years old, "Us" also includes another elder who has secured his place in history as Robert Mugabe who ( another exemplary use of the possessive adjective) famously said, "Blair, keep your England and let me keep my Zimbabwe." ( In similar circumstances with regard to the idea of "shithole countries" as commander in-chief we could perhaps expect to hear dear Adepoju remonstrating in rhyme,
"Trump keep your America,
and let me keep my Nigeria"
27th March ,2025, the date that the mystery was finally cleared up for me, by you - thank God when you talk about the benevolent and I suppose salvific effects of having attended a Roman Catholic Secondary school , which a poor, wretched sinner like me never did - the mystery of why the guys ( in Sierra Leone) that attended Roman Catholic Secondary schools, invariably turned out to be the most argumentative that I have ever encountered on the planet, a prime example that still sticks in my mind, the late great Arthur Abraham - a Pan-Africanist and Nkrumahist to boot ( I've already told you a little about this phenomenon here ). My assumption about the loquacious and argumentative nature of those who attended Catholic Institutions of higher learning in that country was that they had been given a free rein by the Irish Catholic priests, the Irish already known for loquaciousness and eloquence as a national characteristic (Jonathan Swift, GB Shaw, Joyce, Oscar Wilde, Yeats, Samuel Beckett, C. S. Lewis , Gerry Adams ( former leader of Sinn Fein), the immaculate Mary Robinson and of course, Seamus Heaney ( a real poet)
Van Morrison : Poetic Champions Compose
On Wednesday, 26 March 2025 at 17:20:26 UTC+1 Dr. Oohay wrote:ONLY AN INTRO TO MY RESPONSE 2UYou and I seem to have more in common than what perhaps divides us. For instance, what slowly but surely attracted me to the Liberal side (what I call the core or essence of liberalism: being open-minded). I STILL hold on to this ideal. In 2020 I condemned unequivocally THE barbaric ritual-like torturing and slaughtering of George Floyd. Thereafter, I also condemned the misusing of the killing of Floyd as a legitimate cause for domestic terrorism in and beyond MN and even beyond the US — terrorism directed at persons and businesses that had nothing to do with social justice; certain BLM members (mainly funded by certain white folks admitted receiving gifts of money from certain folks (especially white folks). When asked why white folks would give such money one BLM leader replied: "white guilt") — the essence of what it means to be Liberal resonated with me at the beginning mostly with Orwell's ANIMAL FARM which I first read in my Catholic elementary school (named after a one-time persecutor of Jesus) and later his 1984 which I read in my Catholic high school (named after foster father of Jesus). One irony of ACTIVELY receiving MUCH Catholic education: it also (perhaps, unintentionally) prepares you for HOW to question certain dogmas in general (including some of the church organization's own dogmas). Catholic education prepares one for how to question LOGICALLY any ism (including scientism, theism, atheism). Such questioningdoes NOT necessarily mean abandoning one's core principles about the meaning of life. Arguably, such core principles ever or hardly change.Also for the most part, Orwell lived his life as a liberal (aka a believer in the right of any human being to be open-minded).I intend to respond to your Obama question and any associated issue regarding the two dominant political parties (the Republican, the younger and the Democratic, the older) historically speaking.OohayHamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:Dr Oohay,
There you go again, but in the Kafkaesque process, some of us are getting educated : everything that you say in the post that I'm replying to is new to me. and I thank the Almighty that you studiously side-stepped mentioning Brother Obama, USA's first Black President and a Democrat.
I suppose you'd much prefer to paint this version of him ?
So do tell us, which of the parties is really the Black People's Parties it the Republicans or the Democrats, and why is it that Dr.Ben Carson is the only Black dude in Trump's cabinet / inner circle?
I don't know your background , but there is the case of David Horowitz ,formerly a big shot at left wing Ramparts Magazine which I read religiously in the early 1970s, fast forward ( and I'm not blowing his horn) some years ago he authored "Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Slavery is a Bad Idea for Blacks—and Racist Too"
In the 4th form at secondary school we studied Animal Farm with A. T. Von S. Bradshaw, our English tutor, a former major in the British Army.
A little later I got to understand this was all part of the post-war British propaganda ploy to poison our impressionable young minds about the Russian Revolution
And that's how it is: Every urchin that received a colonial type education read some George Orwell, especially Animal Farm from where, as derived, "All men are equal but some men are more equal than others" is forever on our blubbery lips…
As you know, there are different kinds of shit
Smell this
In the McCarthy era and slightly thereafter, I imagine you would have been one of the valuable assets working full time for J. Edgar Hoover as a so-called neo-con type of capitalist ideologue making poignant anti-Marxist propaganda for Brer McCarthy and ensuring that adherents of Karl Marx philosophy ("commies") would all forfeit whatever freedom they imagined they were entitled to as per the American Declaration of Independence which states
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
despite which McCarthy made sure that on suspicion only they would spend long years or indeed the rest of their miserable lives behind bars after being hunted down or nearly lynched by anti-Communist vigilantes.
The Black man's burden ; Under attack, for just being black :
Cf, Angela Davis: The Prison-Industrial-Complex
N.B. ( but not for you ) : "Every man is two men; one is awake in the darkness, the other asleep in the light." ( Khalil Gibran) He also said, "Every man loves two women; one is the creation of his imagination and the other is not yet born."
Dr Oohay,
"White People" ?
Believe it or not, we're all living under the sun of God.
And that's how some of us got dark, under the sun of God
In Plogen ( Black Girl) Cornelis Vreeswijk sings "Jag är svart, är svart i solen" ( I'm black, I'm black (from working) in the sun) from Cornelis' great album "Cornelis sings Victor Jara - worth a good listen )
In the cold war era in Africa there was an ideological war going on" between Communism and Capitalism"; in Africa another ideological battle continues between Islam and the disciples of imperialism's postcolonial ( neo-colonial) Christian missionaries (accurately represented here in Prof. Lumumba & Maponga: A Powerful, Bold Lecture on Religion in Africa!)
When it comes to working for the Yankee Dollar, we know that in the United States, there are some faithful lackeys: God forbid, but, if in the name of crudity/obscenity, Trump ever declares an intention to grab Nigeria by the pussy or by the balls, or in the name of America First and rapacious capitalism second , to transform Nigeria into the New Riviera of West Africa, there are those among us who would not take it lightly, and should you support such an imperialist idea, on the grounds that waiting in the wings to become next president of Nigeria is a geezer who is ostensibly "Marxist", there would be at least a few righteous Nigerians, Chinweizu among them and hopefully, Chimalum Nwankwo too who would accuse you of sleeping with the enemy. (I mention the later, having just read his marvellous " Of the Deepest Shadows and Prisons of Fire " impressed by all of it, especially "Memory Poem ( of Biafra and its prison of fire) "
We understand that you live in the United States, just as Soul Sister Gloria In Excelsis Emeagwali also lives in the United States, and that this should normally mean that you have a vantage perspective that those of us who do not live in the Mighty States, might not so easily share, knowing, as we ought to, that " he (or she) who feels it knows" and that, friend or enemy, sometimes a person has to be over there where the law and the disorder and the love and the hatred is, in order to feel it and to know.
This was clearly brought home to me one day in the late 80s , when I was sitting in some elect exile company, and praising the Islamic Revolution in Iran until someone in the group took off his shirt to show me the stripes on his back, all of them the result of some severe lashes for counter-revolutionary activities…
Bahram, one of my Iraqi colleagues at work, told us how SADDAM once visited his workplace on some kind of regular tour of inspection, and that at the sight of SADDAM ( like HAMAN) one of his colleagues started trembling. The poor man couldn't control himself, as time wore on the trembling increasing incrementally with every second, it got to the point when his whole body was shaking uncontrollably, causing SADDAM to wonder, why is he shaking like that ? - and to conclude that he must be guilty of something, so Saddam's guards took him out and shot him.
Perhaps, just another Kurdish story, to demonise the enemy-.--
On the other hand, the Armenians and other Christian folk in Iraq, loved and still ove Saddam…
But, first to clear up these two outstanding matters 👍
It's good to know that as you say, Orwell taught you in his gospel fable
"ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME are MORE equal than others."
That of course applies to dollar billionaires, poets, presidents, and professors too.
If in doubt :
This was the search term in both Google and Bing :
Google : Donald Trump and Racism
Bing : Donald Trump and Racism
How many lawsuits has Trump been involved in
Dr Oohay
s'il vous plaît,
of course,
you are at liberty,
at Liberté, égalité, fraternité
to search for Donald Trump versus Racism
Donald Trump versus Inequality
Donald Trump versus Barack Obama
Donald Trump versus anti-Semitism
Donald Trump and Charlottesville
Search for The Defiant Lawyers
even search for the movie "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"
starring the late great Sidney Poitier
back in the day, bearing in mind these lines
from I Shall Be Free No. 10 :
"Now, I'm liberal, but to a degree
I want everybody to be free
But if you think that I'll let Barry Goldwater
Move in next door and marry my daughter
You must think I'm crazy!
I wouldn't let him do it for all the farms in Cuba"
Re - what you said earlier on about Congressman Al Green ,
your exact words : "A Demo leader Al Green (not the beloved singer) now invokes the proverbial DEIA victimhood strategy. Newsome (still the same unchanging inauthentic character", etc etc
But surely, poverty, especially Black poverty, and Black Lives Matter in the United States, in Nigeria , and in the world over, is not not merely a matter of victimhood, or is it?
Of course, to our liking : The Modern Jazz Quartet
On Friday, 21 March 2025 at 16:44:21 UTC+1 Dr. Oohay wrote:The Demo Party (with new leaders, such as US Senators Warren and Sanders, US Reps. AOC of NY, Maxine Waters of CA, and Crockett of TX) now fast becoming again the demon party that founded KKK (Murfreesboro. TN) and elected the 28th US president (who happened to be the most "scholarly" president; he earned a PhD — he also officially welcomed the showing of the notorious KKK movie at the White House, ironically, his presidency ended the way Biden's ended. Remember why the 25th amendment passed?also remember the 17th US president (the Democrat who succeeded the 1st Republican US president) poured COLD water onto this "40 acres and a mule" proposed by the Radical Republicans.Welcome back AGAIN to the new leaders of the neo-demon party fighting so hard to free "the oppressed" from the "oppressors". May their re-resurrected god of wokeism save them.By the way, is it simply an accident (for better or for worse) that Africa (by size and population) the 2nd most populated continent has no "nuclear weapons"???!???OohayHow much uglier can it get?
Will it degenerate into another race war?
Food for thought : President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson "I had fully intended to ignore President Trump's latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official…."
On Thursday, 20 March 2025 at 16:09:41 UTC+1 Dr. Oohay wrote:Unfortunately, some LBJ-Type Demo Party members (especially certain black folks, mostly female ones) STILL seem satisfied with being used as Leftism's "useful idiots". Only a "god" can save them now.
OohayOn Wednesday, March 19, 2025, 9:10 AM, 'Emeagwali, Gloria (History)' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
Professor of History/African Studies, CCSU
Chief Editor- "Africa Update"
https://sites.ccsu.edu/afstudy/archive.html
Gloria Emeagwali's Documentaries
www.vimeo.com/gloriaemeagwali
www.africahistory.net
Founding Coordinator, African Studies, CCSU
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