owed to China.
GE
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emeagwali, Gloria (History) [emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:25 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - China Bashing & Foreign Investments in Africa
Ikhide,
I never thought we would be on the same page but I certainly agree with you on this one.
Before China entered the picture the remuneration for African primary products in particular had reached new lows. We all know what the IMF
conditionalities also implied in terms of debt repayment.
In any case since a great deal of American money is really Chinese money, at least until the 12 trillion dollars the US. owes China are repaid,
why not go to the source and cut off the middleman, where feasible.
Gloria Emeagwali
www.africahistory.net<http://www.africahistory.net/>
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ikhide [xokigbo@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:35 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Cc: Kenn Harrow
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - China Bashing & Foreign Investments in Africa
"let me see if i understand this correctly: since china did not colonize africa, it is ok if it invests in any govt project in africa, invests in guinea the day after the stadium massacre, since business and human rights should have no relationship. invests in sudanese oil, regardless of what genocide that makes possible
i think hitler would love that logic'
- Ken Harrow
Well, Ken, perhaps the Cold War has truly run its course and we are the better for it. Egbe belu, ugo belu, "Let the kite perch and let the eagle perch too. If one says no to other, let his wing break..."
Not sure why you are so irritated by the prospect of China expanding into Africa (I mean what are our options in this age?) Sounds like you have a beef with China getting a piece of the action. But then, despite what many people think, Africa is rich; there is enough for all. And we truly need the investment. So much needs to be done and I personally welcome China's investment. A lot of work needs to be done, we need to build roads, bridges, utilities, safety and security infrastructure... I am not afraid of China. I am worried about our leaders giving away the store yet again. But then, that is where we all come in. We have got to keep pushing for transparency in these relationships. I am keeping an open mind...
On a comical note, as a little boy growing up in Nigeria, I (and my fellow little boys and little girls) was a beneficiary of the Cold War. China actively courted us. We got free copies of the Little Red Book extolling China's communist manifesto, etc, etc and they always sent us glossy hagiographies er magazines of Chairman Mao leading the Red Army to victory. The Chinese girls were so pretty in uniform, LOL. I so admired Chairman Mao and looked forward to being like him someday. We even organized "marches" in his honor ;-))) Many years later, I was to learn from imperialist newspapers that the man hated to take baths. I regret that I did not know that about him when I was young. I would have asked him to adopt me. You see, like most of my friends at the time, I hated to take baths ;-)))))
Be well. If you are this irritated by China, what are you going to do to me when you find that I may be leading a Walmart delegation to Abuja soon to have em bilateral talks with my good friend Chief Dr. Goodluck Jonathan... After which I lead a MCDonalds delegation to see Babangida... We have got to sell those burgers ;-)
- Ikhide
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