wahhabism is not al qaida; but can certainly include many who are
anti-western, and who don't mind shipping money into al-qaeda, as a
certain bin laden was able to arrange. it is rather the western paranoia
over islam that i was addressing, so that the minute a govt says it
intends to be muslim, there is panic...until it declares itself
moderately islamic, and democratic. then they are ok.
of course, no american president would hesitate to identify the u.s. as
a christian country, that is, identify it in a million ways with the
first gesture always being to attend church services conspicuously when
running for office. and look at perry and romney, flaunting their
christian credentials, as though separation of church and state were a
communist plot.
ironic that europeans don't genuflect before the church as do american
politicians. but these same politicians could never recognize the right
of muslims to assert the same claims for their own countries. "One
nation, under god..."
whose god?
ken
On 10/25/11 12:50 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
> Wahhabism and al Qaida-ism are not identical in philosophy. One is ultimate conservative and
> could be pro -Western (Saudi Arabia) while the other is fanatically
> opposed to the West. It would be surprising for Libya to go in the direction
> of Wahhabism. After all there were many al-Qaida supporters there among the rebels-
> some tortured by Gaddafi. Remember Bush (and Obama's) Rendition?
>
> It is not impossible, though, for some middle way to emerge.
>
> Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
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> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Sharia Law for the New Libya?
>
> i too find this ridiculously overblown. what's the law in the gulf states where the u.s. has its biggest partners???
> ken
>
> On 10/24/11 5:38 PM, Pablo Idahosa wrote:
> This is false debate, as Moses know well. As I recall, there was native administration and Sharia in a number of the French, Dutch, Portugal and UK's far-flung-colonies. There's nothing incompatible between Sharia and imperialism. It's all part of the new dual mandate of local trusteeship. I wish them well.
>
> Pablo
>
>
> On 24/10/11 11:32 AM, Jaye Gaskia wrote:
> Yes indeed! Much of what has been portrayed here as Anti imperialism, had assumed that it is a given and an inevitability that in the coincidence of interest between the NTC and NATO, it is imperialism that will have the upper hand and will determine the future of the revolution. It seemed to have been forgotten that the uprising also had its won needs and interestes, and was as capable as imperialism to make use of imperialism to achieve its own ends.
> JG
>
> From: Moses Ebe Ochonu<meochonu@gmail.com><mailto:meochonu@gmail.com>
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:53 AM
> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Sharia Law for the New Libya?
>
> This is actually a great development, if true. It would demonstrate in the clearest terms yet that the NTC leaders and the Libyan people are taking concrete steps to own their revolution and its aftermath. It would, for me, demonstrate a deft usage of imperialist forces to reclaim one's dignity and the independence and courage to then chart a new sociopolitical course that may offend the imperialist but fulfills the aspirations of one's people. The overwhelming majority of Libyans are Muslims. If they decide to be guided by Sharia in their political and judicial life, that's great and is a true expression of their newfound freedom, a further enunciation of people power. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a people desiring Sharia or some other religious body of law or set of political prescriptions as a blueprint for governance and judicial mediation. Is that not the true object of democracy, for which thousands of Libyans fought and died for? This may rattle the imperialist forces because of their own phobias and anxieties, but it is good news. The only concern would be that such a radical shift should be put to a vote or tested for popular acclamation rather than simply imposed by the new leaders. The NTC has mapped out a constitution-making process to be handled by elected delegates representing the country's many constituencies. If this elected body decides to craft a constitution with Sharia at its core, that would have fulfilled the democratic criteria of representation, popular acclamation, and deliberative consultation. The fear of sharia and other seemingly exclusivist religious and secular practices and ideologies is sometimes irrational and can lead to a contradictory disavowal of democratic freedoms by those who profess commitment to them. In my own country of Nigeria, I'd rather those who desire sharia and other ideologies have the space and freedom to express and practice them than otherwise. The unwillingness to have an unfettered discussion on these issues, to put them to a referendum, and then devise ways to allow their expression is already destroying Northern Nigeria. If the Libyans, because of their religious homogeneity, have no such anxieties and want to adopt sharia, they deserve support and commendation for their courage to defy the wishes and fears of their Western supporters. It would be one of the fruits of their hard worn freedom from the murderous tyrant called Ghadaffi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History)<emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>> wrote:
> October 23, 2011
>
> New Libyan Leader Says Sharia Law Will Rule...
>
>
> By Associated Press, Updated: Sunday, October 23, 3:29 PM
>
> TRIPOLI, Libya — Libya's interim rulers declared the country liberated on Sunday after an eight-month civil war, launching the oil-rich nation
>
> on what is meant to be a two-year transition to democracy.
>
>
>
> But they laid out future plans with an Islamist tone that could rattle their Western backers.
>
>
> Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/libya/2011/10/23/new-libyan-leader-says-sharia-law-will-rule#ixzz13EkSscWS
>
> Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
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